• Imgonnatrythis
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    9 months ago

    So this means he’s Definitely refusing to debate him. What a shit. Murica, you vote this guy in and I think I’m all out of sympathy.

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      9 months ago

      Trump loving America is not the majority of America. It’s not even half. It’s just the “voting age” almost-halfz which is what, 30% of all Americans?

      The reason Trump won in 2016 is because many people who didn’t like Hilary didn’t vote. And even so, Hilary got 2 million more votes than Trump.

      Then Trump lost to Biden. If he was so popular, he would have won a second term.

      So, no. Please don’t think that the majority of Americans are deplorables.

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        9 months ago

        But what does all that count for when people are busier finding excuses to not vote for Biden than to vote against the orange Putin?

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          9 months ago

          That doesn’t change the fact that Trump didn’t get reelected (which is almost always the norm in U.S. politics) because people realized their mistake. Biden ain’t a saint, but at least he’s not a scorched-Earth asshole like Trump, and most Americans know that.

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              Definitely not guaranteed, but again, I think most Americans learned their lesson with the Hilary/Trump fiasco. They thought Hilary winning was a given, it was guaranteed and, well, it wasn’t. So the America people wised up.

              When you hear that “people are losing faith in Biden,” you have to be reaaaally careful as to who is driving that narrative. Hint: the voices are not coming from within the room.

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        9 months ago

        I don’t think that, but a trump win means not enough people with half a brain got out and voted. In an election like this that makes you every bit as deplorable as the Trump lovers.

        Not everyone in Soddom and Gomerra were terrible, but when enough fruits are sour you gotta just avoid the whole batch.

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          I don’t understand the point of your comment, but okay. The reality of the matter is, most American people abhor Trump, so they will make sure he stays a loser.

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        9 months ago

        Yet you (America) still vote this guy in. Somethings rotten and wrong over there and you guys better figure it out.

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          We can’t pull a France. The police are already trigger happy and willing to work with non-police that have guns and just as trigger happy. You take charge for a bit and have your country become more influential ty.

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            Did you though? He’s running again with a good chance to become president, again.

            I can only speak for myself but I am sick and tired of the fate of the world hanging on whatever mentally deranged and unhinged extremist the US might elect every few years. Aren’t you supposed to be the oldest democracy in the world? I expect as much from countries like Russia or China but the US should do better.

            The world needs the US to do better.

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              Again, Trump is not president. He lost. He didn’t win a reelection. He couldn’t even, as the most powerful man on Earth (supposedly), overturn the elections. He will never see the inside of the White House again. Just make sure your vote counts.

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                In Germany we’ve something we call “wehrhafte Demokratie” which basically means a democracy capable of defending itself. There are measures in place (in theory) that prevent parties that aim to destroy the democracy from getting into power by winning elections.

                Someone who openly admits his goal is to end democracy shouldn’t be able to run for president. It’s what happened in Germany back in 1933. The NSDAP won the general election and took over the government via democratic means and within weeks destroyed the democracy. Never again (hopefully)

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      9 months ago

      Dude it’s not me, it’s them. There’s a weird division in this country and for some reason there are people on the other side.