Yeah so that logic only works if people make informed decisions and they don’t, that’s why society the size it is at the moment only works with a government in place setting some ground rules and preventing people from being morons… Our trying to anyway.
Also, the internet is not hosted in international water as far as I know so there’s no reasons it can’t be regulated… Hell, I’m sure you’re very happy (or hope that you are) that CSAM isn’t just everywhere in the name of net neutrality and letting people do what they want on it.
What if the government decided Lemmy was a dangerous (communist ?) platform that needs to be shutdown? This is a matter of censorship, however the outright open market for our data from all platforms is the elephant in the room here.
Well, I would expect there to be some shred of evidence that it is dangerous to the security of the United States. We have LOADS of evidence of that for TikTok.
An american company that sells data to foreign intelligence so they can manipulate the public. Facebook is a way bigger threat to peoples freedom than TikTok but the CCP boogeyman has y’all in a chokehold so you’re distracted from the real threat
I experimented with tor and signal at some point and it was enlightening to see how much of “the internet” as we think we know it is already heavily filtered and served to us through a very narrow pipeline of modern browsers.
So you believe that pictures of consenting naked underage people should be freely shared and even made available in magazines because making them illegal is fascism?
Yeah so that logic only works if people make informed decisions and they don’t, that’s why society the size it is at the moment only works with a government in place setting some ground rules and preventing people from being morons… Our trying to anyway.
Also, the internet is not hosted in international water as far as I know so there’s no reasons it can’t be regulated… Hell, I’m sure you’re very happy (or hope that you are) that CSAM isn’t just everywhere in the name of net neutrality and letting people do what they want on it.
And who decides what gets censored? Today it’s tick tok tomorrow it’s Lemmy?
Lemmy is not a United States adversary with a history of spying on foreign intelligence. If it was, I sure as fuck wouldn’t be on it!
What if the government decided Lemmy was a dangerous (communist ?) platform that needs to be shutdown? This is a matter of censorship, however the outright open market for our data from all platforms is the elephant in the room here.
Well, I would expect there to be some shred of evidence that it is dangerous to the security of the United States. We have LOADS of evidence of that for TikTok.
And if no one cares about your expectations because now it’s been done before so if it’s being done again it must be for good reason?
So Facebook is getting banned?
Facebook is an American company. Are you ok? Can you read?
An american company that sells data to foreign intelligence so they can manipulate the public. Facebook is a way bigger threat to peoples freedom than TikTok but the CCP boogeyman has y’all in a chokehold so you’re distracted from the real threat
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That’s how society works in general and I don’t understand how people think letting the internet be free of laws wouldn’t lead to shit.
I experimented with tor and signal at some point and it was enlightening to see how much of “the internet” as we think we know it is already heavily filtered and served to us through a very narrow pipeline of modern browsers.
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You get the laws you vote for.
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So you believe that pictures of consenting naked underage people should be freely shared and even made available in magazines because making them illegal is fascism?
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CSAM, underage pornography, hate speech, death threats…
“There are narrow exceptions of course”
Yep, exactly and these exceptions apply to the web as well, just because you’re on the internet it doesn’t allow you to do whatever the fuck you want.