• burrito
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    9 months ago

    That’s because us power users know to turn the telemetry off and also have it blocked on our network.

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      9 months ago

      Right, but then you shouldn’t be shocked to find out that a feature was removed because nobody seemed to be using it.

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        9 months ago

        No, I expect Mozilla to know their market and use other means (like focus groups or surveys or something) to figure out which features are actually popular, instead of lazily using a bad metric.

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          9 months ago

          Mozilla knows their market. Because of said telemetry.

          How do you think that works? For any other app?

          Hint:

          (like focus groups or surveys or something)

          Not like this. Because they have both shown to be absolutely terrible for this general market preference research.

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            9 months ago

            Did you miss the part of the conversation where folks were pointing out that lots of users turn the telemetry off?

            Your reply is as tone-deaf and non-responsive as sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling “nuh uh!” like a toddler.

            If you want to be persuasive you’ve got to prove that the telemetry is somehow useful in spite of many users turning it off, and you’ve done absolutely fuck-all to argue that.

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              9 months ago

              You are committing the same mistake as you accuse me of:

              many users turning it off

              [citation needed] [how many?]

              For all you know, maybe the 15 very vocal users in here are the only ones who turn it off. Or do we know that many users do it? How many? 5%? 50%? 95%?

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                9 months ago

                Many programs differente between “personalized ad” telemetry and “help us improve our program” telemetry. I generally leave the second on.

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                9 months ago

                That’s why Mozilla has to use other means to find out!

                Thanks for proving my point for me.