The mods of all the major communities there remove comments criticism Hexbear and usually follow it up with a ban. It’s absolutely clear what is happening and it shouldn’t be allowed to continue.

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    Would you apply that logic to a neonazi white supremacist community on Lemmy.world?

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      Can you give us the name? I think just spreading FUD isn’t really helping and I also can’t do anything about it without more information.

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          Thanks for the clarification, I think you should have made that a bit more clear in the comment.

          But I agree. We shouldn’t only not listen to nazis and other bad people, but actively not invite them to our home in the first place. In my opinion that means giving them the boot and then defederating once they accumulate on instance dedicated to their cause.

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      I would indeed say:

      • yep, definitely don’t join it
      • neonazi white supremacist is not the same as Communist
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        Tankie is not the same as communist either. Tankies are genocide denial, authoritarian supporters, who are no better than Nazis.

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      Would you apply that logic to a neonazi white supremacist community on Lemmy.world?

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        Okay, so you’re fine with sharing spaces with neonazi white supremacists.

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          you’re fine with sharing spaces with neonazi white supremacists.

          I’m not sharing a space with them when I block them, duh.

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            No, you’re putting a blanket over them and pretending they’re not there any more.

            They would still be active on the site and harming the community at large, you personally would just be blind to it.

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              No, you’re putting a blanket over them and pretending they’re not there any more.

              Isn’t defederation the same thing? Users won’t disappear (and they can also create accounts elsewhere…).

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                Blocked users or communities can still interact on the wider site and with you, you just won’t see them.

                Defederated instances are completely barred from doing so.

                It’s the difference between plugging your ears when someone else speaks vs locking them out of your house and not letting them get close.

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                  Ok, but it’s the same thing from the perspective of all the people on an instance vs from the perspective of an individual. Those people are still there, creating posts etc., and they can easily move on other instances if they want too.

                  It’s just a “bigger blanket”, but the concept is essentially the same, with the plus that more people are “covered” and the minus that someone might be affected against their will.

                  Either way, it doesn’t solve the problem, it just masks it for the members of an instance. Why would it be a fundamentally better solution in this particular instance?

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              Have your instance block individual communities and users then.

              Blocking entire big-tent instances is “harming the community at large”.

              PS: Have fun on my block list. I’m not discussing any longer with someone who says I’m a neonazi sympathizer.