• p5184@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Apples got to have the most ridiculous architectural license and royalty terms ever lol.

    Kinda cool to see tho. Does anybody know who else has a full architectural license from ARM? I think Nuvia has one?

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      11 months ago

      Nuvia doesn’t exist anymore. There’s actually an ARM / Qualcomm lawsuit where ARM is trying to invalidate all Nuvia technology brought into Qualcomm because they were under a different licensing agreement that ARM said was voided on Nuvia being merged into Qualcomm.

      We’ll see what comes out of that.

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      11 months ago

      Google, Amazon and Microsoft all have fully custom cores in the pipeline. I think Ampere may also have an ISA license from AppliedMicro. Not sure about NXP and Broadcom.

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      11 months ago

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture_family#Architectural_licence

      Companies can also obtain an ARM architectural licence for designing their own CPU cores using the ARM instruction sets. These cores must comply fully with the ARM architecture. Companies that have designed cores that implement an ARM architecture include Apple, AppliedMicro (now: Ampere Computing), Broadcom, Cavium (now: Marvell), Digital Equipment Corporation, Intel, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Samsung Electronics, Fujitsu, and NUVIA Inc. (acquired by Qualcomm in 2021).

      Qualcomm has an architectural license and used to design their own ARM core in the Snapdragon 800, 805, 820 series. The 810 and later chips use licensed ARM cores. Then Q acquired Nuvia so they are designing their own custom cores again.