im usually pretty scared of surgical stuff, but ive been thinking about this and realized there would be a lot of benefits.
i would 100% stop producing sperm (while i am on hormones, its never quite 100%) so i can stop worrying about that
i would produce less testosterone which would probably be good
tucking and stuff would become easier / i could more easily wear fem clothing
i have yet to think of any negative effects so…
if any of you have experience with this or anything, please let me know so i can hopefully make an informed decision
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I had mine done in November (best NNN ever imo). I would recommend it if you’re considering it and are able to financially cover the proceure. My insurance covered it, so I only paid $2500 for it, which I put on a zero interest payment plan with my insurance.
I haven’t heard of T levels increasing after, my surgeon didn’t even mention it as a possibile side effect. It is a very routine outpatient surgery, my urologist had done hundreds if them and said he never had any complications.
The healing sucks, or not, YMMV. For me it wasn’t bad. First week was a week of soreness and slow moving around the house, next week was just not exerting myself but I was able to leave the house, drive, etc. Week after I was back at work.
It has helped my dysphoria so much. Just knowing that my body won’t be sabatoging me anymore is great, but there are other benefits, like easier tucking, etc. For me the medical benefit is the best part though, this is anecdotal but I feel that hrt is able to work better now that the estrogen doesn’t have to compete my body’s T production.
So yeah, definitely consider the cost and recovery aspect, but it was 100% worth it for me!
thanks!
For me, the negative effects of any surgery would mostly be the surgery itself, the cost, the pain, the healing…
absolutely fair point, thats why im scared of it. but ultimately its a one time investment for long term benefit, i can kinda think about it the same way i think about having my blood drawn which also feels really bad every time. the cost would be a problem tho, i hope there could be some way to make my insurance cover it but im not optimistic about that
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You can just tell your doctor that you are socially transitioned, they won’t know. Lying to gatekeeping doctors is morally good, just don’t lie about any actual health related things unless you really know what you’re doing.
I always tell doctors I’m a trans woman, even though I’m nonbinary, since doctors frequently refuse to give trans healthcare to nonbinary people and my physical transition goals mostly align with trans women’s
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ugh thats so annoying, why do people want us to socially transition when our bodies arent ready to be perceived as female yet, kinda feels backwards to me
You reminded me of this comic I saw yesterday
crazy stuff
Got any good sources for reading more about this BS?
I didn’t, but I found these when searching “the history of gate keeping transgender care”:
https://ojs.stanford.edu/ojs/index.php/intersect/article/view/2056
They hate us
These are all my thoughts, too. I have nothing to add though…
thats fine, knowing that im not alone in this is already helpful :p
Definitely take this with a huge grain of salt, but I’ve heard a little anecdotal stuff about potential unintended consequences? Mostly in the form of paradoxical increases in T as the adrenals overcompensate. But I think those tend to level out eventually? I’d love it if somebody could correct me or expound upon this.
The real question is, are you retaining the extra skin or not? I think I’d keep it, personally, just for funsies 😝
Since bottom surgery my T levels are below the normal range for someone with ovaries. Mostly because I’m still taking the same doses as before surgery, and I do plan to adjust them once I’m fully recovered. I’ve heard of paradoxical increase, but I’m pretty sure its exceedingly uncommon. I’ve gone through a period of pretty intense feminization since I got surgery, and thats after 8 years of HRT before hand.
thanks, that sounds awesome! makes me want to do it even more :p
Thanks for the added context! That’s a huge relief
i think id rather get rid of the extra skin, it feels weird :p
From what little I’ve looked into, it matters how much you keep down there if you later want a vaginoplasty (because it changes what they have to work with.)
ah i see, thanks!
When I had my vasectomy - still an egg back then - I already thought that I would prefer to have them removed. Less body hair, more head hair, seemed like a good trade. Looking back at that now I can only chuckle at my eggness.
As an egg, also though it might be cool to have some sort of medical condition that would let me get them removed without having to explain why I got rid of them. Was totally clueless at the time and for the next decade. The only downside of voluntarily getting them removed would be potentially explaining why I did it. Granted, I don’t think I realized at the time I’d need some sort of sex hormone. Guess one downside is in the case of extreme dystopia or being trapped alone on an island for several years/decades, not being dependent on artificial sex hormones is useful.
I totally also had these thoughts as an egg. One of the guys I knew that was friends of my brother had testicular cancer and was really messed up about the possibility of having them removed in his 20s… and I was jealous and wished that could happen to me? I didn’t tell anyone because I thought it wasn’t right to feel that way. Took awhile but it all makes sense now lmao 🏳️⚧️
honestly if i was trapped on an island id rather just let my body crumble and die than let my balls masculinize me
I mean eunuchs are a thing and lived long lives. So live without testes should be possible, even without replacement hormones.
Talk to a doctor.
But also this random internet stranger doesn’t see a problem with it. (not a doctor)
