• democracy1984@lemmy.world
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    It’s fine to have dating preferences. The issue is when people who are just calling anyone who is conservative leaning terrible. If you don’t agree with someone’s political ideology, you should just respectfully disagree, not call them a terrible person.

    Also, calling people evil for their options is a terribly way to convince them to change, it just makes them get really defensive. If you want to convince someone to change opinion, you need to have a respectful, insightful discussion.

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      The meme here didn’t even call anyone evil. That said, if you guys don’t want to be called evil, stop supporting evil shit.

      Conservative policies not only rob women of the rights to their own bodies, it gets them killed too. Either conservatives openly support this or they’re somehow too naive to see what the politicians they vote for are doing, and both are good reasons for women to stay the hell away from them.

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        Just being conservative leaning doesn’t mean you are far right, and agree with everything the conservative party does.

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          what else are they doing that you’re for? please be specific

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            I’m genuinely curious what reason someone has to support them. Like genuinely. I look at Republicans and am like how the fuck can anyone that isn’t rich and in power be on that side? And then I remember the very potent tactics of fearmongering

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        Being conservative learning doesn’t mean you want to oppress people. It means you want less government regulation.

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            Depends on the specific person. I totally agree that discrimination of minorities shouldn’t be allowed. You can be conservative without being racist.

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              But being racist isn’t an automatic loss of a vote for most conservatives. Sure - You can be conservative and not racist, but if you are voting for conservatives who are racist… What is the difference?

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                What exactly is the GOP doing that is racist? Isn’t racism explicitly unconstitutional? If a candidate was racist, I wouldn’t vote for them.

                But I haven’t seen explanations for what they do that is racist. It’s just people who are calling them racist, and saying you’re dumb if you don’t think they’re racist.

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                  Look up why republican redistricting maps in red states keep getting shot down and sued.

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                    Gerrymandering is an effective way to get more votes. Any political party would try to do it.

                    Really, what we need is a system where gerrymandering is impossible.

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          I hate to tell you this but that is the definition from like 30 years ago. If you look at their behavior now, they do the exact opposite (see basically any policy they’ve passed in the last 2 years)

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              It’s not the numerous postal service designations that people are pissed at though. It’s the bills that are making my friends flee the state that people are rightly pissed at. Not every republican is an extremist, but the extremists have control over the party and the rest of the party seems completely fine with them at the wheel. Either it’s extreme apathy or tacit agreement.

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      Conservatives aren’t evil, but they are bad cooks, and worse lovers.

      Conservatives don’t clean their own underwear, and they cheat in CS:GO.

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      How do you have a respectful or insightful discussion with someone uninterested in being respectful or having insight?

      How do you explain the suffering caused by separating children from parents at the border to someone who doesn’t see those people as human? To someone who thinks they deserve to suffer for existing in the wrong color of skin? At what point do you call a spade a spade?

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        If they’re uninterested in respectful discussion, then you should just leave them alone.

        Would you like to know my opinion on those things?

        We should definitely make the legal immigration process easier. But we shouldn’t just allow people to immigrate illegally. And you shouldn’t be separating families without a good reason, and it shouldn’t be for very long. A few hours is okay, but if you need go longer than 24 hours, you should give them chances to see their family.

        Your skin color doesn’t matter, it should be irrelevant to basically everything. (Also, what was the last law passed that was racist? Because isn’t that completely unconstitutional?)

        And no one should suffer. But that’s a really hard goal to reach, and so we do end up with a lot of compromises.

        I’d be happy to have a civil discussion over these subjects. All I ask is we don’t call anyone evil, just for being in a particular group.

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      What if they’re espousing, either directly or by association, terrible things? Is that not the appropriate time?