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    And in the “actual” order of operations, if we want to pretend one exists, 2( binds more tightly than ÷

    if you’re going via prescriptivism, then you’re wrong, because there are plenty of authoritative sources following the left hand model

    if you’re going via descriptivism, then you’re wrong, because this thread exists

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      No, 2( does not bind more tightly than ÷. 2( is simply 2×(…, and ÷ and × occur at the same level of priority. After resolving the addition in the parentheses, the remaining operations are resolved left to right.

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        if you’re going via prescriptivism, then you’re wrong, because there are plenty of authoritative sources following the left hand model

        if you’re going via descriptivism, then you’re wrong, because this thread exists

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          No, the fact that a good many people are incorrect about how math works does not entail that math is an open question. It’s not, math has actual rules to its equations and an unambiguous right answer. In this case, that answer is 16.

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            math has actual rules to its equations and an unambiguous right answer

            you know you could’ve just started this by admitting you’ve never touched the subject at a higher level than high school and saved us all this bother

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              I’m well familiar with math and the rules by which it works. Those who persist in arguing the case here could save the rest of us the bother by admitting they were stumped by a simple gotcha equation and are embarrassed, rather than wasting everyone’s time by insisting that math is nothing but a lawless, rules-free wasteland where the answer to an equation depends on your feelings at the time.

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                I’m well familiar with math and the rules by which it works

                i know you won’t realise this because you never got past basic calculus, but this is a very funny statement to anybody that did

                they know all the “math rules” guys. which ones? ALL of them

                but okay these rules: where do they come from, then?

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                  Fortunately, the rules necessary to resolve the equation in this post are extremely elementary, so none of what you’re referencing has any bearing whatever.

                  There are exactly three things to consider in here to determine priority: parentheses, multiplication/division, and addition. The addition happens first due to the parentheses, and the remaining is evaluated left-to-right. The only correct answer here is 16.

                  All your deflection from your embarrassment at misreading a simple equation doesn’t detract from this.

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                    Fortunately, the rules necessary to resolve the equation in this post are extremely elementary, so none of what you’re referencing has any bearing whatever.

                    this would be like trying to tell a chemical engineer they didn’t know what they were doing based on your understanding of the atom as a ball of protons with electrons wooshing round it like they were moons

                    very cute

                    unfortunately, if you give the expression 1 / 2x to anybody who knows what they’re doing they’ll interpret it as 1 / (2x) because it would be absurd not to

                    for reference, that’s why the calculator works like this. because it’s a tool designed primarily for people who actually know what they’re doing with numbers, so it works how they expect it to work