• masquenox@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    it’s up to the people within Russia to inform themselves better

    People in the US certainly didn’t manage that in 2003.

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      1 year ago

      bUt WhAt ABouT IraQ?

      Why move on to an unrelated topic from 20 years ago?

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        1 year ago

        If the people in the US have proved themselves incapable of “informing themselves better” (despite having far better sources of information to do it with), why are Russians on the hook for not doing so?

        Besides… one should be careful what one asks for - if the people of the world were to “inform themselves better,” it would be the US that gets treated as a “hostile and rogue nation.”

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          1 year ago

          Restating your whataboutism in more and different words doesn’t change its fundamental vacuousness.

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            1 year ago

            Nope… still seems as relevant to the conversation as it was the first time I stated it.

            Here, let me help keep you on track… if the people in the US have proved themselves incapable of “informing themselves better” (despite having far better sources of information to do it with), why are Russians on the hook for not doing so?

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              If you believe that Americans should’ve been better informed, then you surely agree the same applies to Russians at the current time, right? Why, then, focus attention on something from 20 years ago instead of the active, ongoing situation in Ukraine?

              Whataboutism is a way of derailing a discussion with a seemingly related, but actually irrelevant, side point. Which is what you’re doing.

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                If you believe that Americans should’ve been better informed, then you surely agree the same applies to Russians at the current time, right?

                I also believe that the moon being made out of cheddar would have been great for cheese-lovers here on Earth - that doesn’t mean I expect to find moon rocks in the diary aisle.

                Whataboutism is a way of derailing

                Whine about whataboutism all you want - it’s not going to stop me from pointing out your hypocritical double-standards.