• BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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    It’s staggering they keep pushing against the only natural rights that’s been codified with “shall not be infringed”.

    Seems pretty clear that all laws limiting anything that is considered a weapon would be unconstitutional.

    And before all the BS arguments flow in:

    Automatic weapons existed when the constitution was written.

    Cannon are still legally owned.

    At the time the Constitution writing, entire ships with rows of cannon were in private possession.

    Do you really think the framers were stupid and couldn’t forsee the development of greater and greater weapons? Why else would they write it this way, considering they’d just been attacked by their own King.

    If you disagree with any Thin I’ve said, I can only think you haven’t read enough of the history of the time, to understand they didn’t see themselves as rebels (that’s a label we’ve applied), but as loyal subjects of the crown and were being treated like second-class citizens.

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      It’s staggering they keep pushing against the only natural rights that’s been codified with “shall not be infringed”.

      What is the number one cause of death for U.S. children right now? It’s gun deaths.

      The U.S. has a gun problem. That’s why there is pushback. We need gun control because the current situation is not working, and is leading to unnecessary deaths.

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        Didn’t you get corrected multiple times at this point? I feel like you’ve had repeated conversations, and you somehow always forget them the next day. It’s not just guns either, it’s a lot of things.

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          Didn’t you get corrected multiple times at this poin

          “Corrected”

          You guys don’t seem to understand that gun deaths are still deaths whether suicide or homicide. It’s bad either way.

          I feel like you’ve had repeated conversations, and you somehow always forget them the next day

          If you think the gun debate is too repetitive, feel free to instead post something interesting.

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            And you don’t seem to understand that there’s no valid reason based in facts to care specifically about “gun deaths”, no matter how many times you’re corrected. Don’t let facts get in the way of your feelings pal

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              no valid reason based in facts to care

              The same goes for any kind of deaths when you put it like that. Unlike you, I care when people die.

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                  Tell me, what is the homicide rate in the U.S. versus your average European country? How many guns does your average European country have in comparison to the U.S.?

                  Can you answer me that?

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              That is life

              No, it’s negligence and malice.

              Most of the deaths are black children and we know that can solved with more law enforcement

              Not even a hint of irony.

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        We don’t agree on a lot but I’m forced to agree with you on this. The only weapons protected by the 2nd Amendment are the ones you would issue to the men and women you would muster in civil defense - AR-15’s and the like.

        The 2nd Amendment is an insurmountable obstacle to impactful, meaningful gun reform in the United States, regardless of your position on whether that reform should be carried out.

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          The only weapons protected by the 2nd Amendment are the ones you would issue to the men and women you would muster in civil defense - AR-15’s and the like.

          I’m glad we can agree that the second amendment covers fully automatic, burst fire, and high caliber weapons and ammo.

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              I’m being facetious with the guy saying that weapons that would be valuable in civil defense should be fair game. Because should it actually come down to a matter of civil defense, you can bet your ass that truck mounted .50 calibers and larger anti-anor and anti-vehicle weapons are on the table.

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                  The 2nd amendment was about rifles

                  Then why was “arms”, a fundamentally broad term that obviously encompasses far more than just rifles, used, specifically alongside “shall not be infringed”? If the goal were just for every man to be able to own a single rifle, would they have not written it as such?

  • Throwaway@lemm.eeOP
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    As an aside, what would guys think of having a day for memes? Like Meme Monday or Freedom Friday or something. And maybe not just memes, but pretty much anything, so long as it isnt anti-conservative? Hell, post music and comedy bits.

    Honestly sounds fun to me.

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      Imo we really don’t need a specific day. It’s not like there’s just tons of low effort memes flooding the community or something.