• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    There’s been lots of misleading headlines on this, but this is the first time they didn’t at least include the full quote in the article…

    “We’ll continue to provide military assistance to Israel until they get rid of Hamas, but we have to be careful – they have to be careful,” Biden said. “The whole world’s public opinion can shift overnight, we can’t let that happen.”

    He’s not criticizing Netanyahu, and he’s still saying he’ll support him no matter what.

    But for literal decades now Biden has been saying that to Israels government, and they’ve literally never listened, and Biden has never stopped supporting them.

    Why the fuck are people acting like either is going to suddenly happen now?

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      11 months ago

      I find this so infuriating. How do they think this strategy gets rid of Hamas? Israel indiscriminately bombing Palestine is the best recruitment tool Hamas ever had. Why do world leaders with the best advisors money can pay espouse such nonsense. Is there anyone who seriously believes this?

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        11 months ago

        They don’t believe it. It’s just a talking point to cover for genocide. Nettanyahu, like all the right-wing authoritarian fucksticks before him, is about as attached to his excuses as the Navajo nation is to water polo (spoiler: they’re not). It’s just some bullshit to spout while you fucking murder people. If the excuse runs thin, fuck it, just make a new excuse, but this is the one they’ve spent decades cultivating by literally funding hamas.

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          11 months ago

          Nettanyahu doesn’t believe it, but Biden does.

          Liberals are famously incapable of not understanding reality, just in a different way than straight up psychotic conservatives: Enlightened centrism.

          Biden is a liberal Democrat, and quite literally believes things like the rule of law is unavoidable and will magically hold Trump to account regardless of what he or his AG do. They always think diplomacy with psychotic dictators will work. They never, ever understand that horrible people can wear a suit and are willing to do horrible things, too.

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        11 months ago

        The only way this strategy works is if at the end there is no one left to seek revenge. I’m sure there’s a word for it.

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      11 months ago

      Supporting Israel is not the same as supporting Netanyahu.

      Biden and Netanyahu have a decades-long relationship that has at times been strained. At the Monday evening reception, Biden said he once gifted Netanyahu a photo and wrote at the top: “I love you but I don’t agree with a damn thing you had to say.”

      “It’s about the same today,” Biden said, adding he’d “had my differences with some Israeli leadership.”

      Sounds like he’s criticizing Netanyahu.

      • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
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        11 months ago

        We voted against trump and so people want to defend their choice.

        The problem is there is no defense for his actions.