• Geek_King@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I recently switched my email from gmail to proton mail, because fuck google’s… well… everything. Glad to hear that Proton Mail keeps fighting for privacy!

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      11 months ago

      I changed back when google got rid of the free “mail for your domain” and frankly its been a great thing for me. They keep announcing new things that replacing my existing apps.

      They have a password manager now that I use. They are finally adding actual fuction to their online drive storage so I can sync files and backup photos.

      Its been well worth the price for me. If only they had an office suite lol

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        11 months ago

        The only thing I haven’t found a good replacement for was how G Drive also handles Office style documents. I make use of that a lot, especially from my phone. But I agree, Proton Mail hasn’t been painful one bit.

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          11 months ago

          Seriously? My workplace uses google drive, and many documents are made with word. … A very common problem is that sometimes someone opens a word doc from the web interface of google drive - which automatically can conveniently opens it with google docs, which totally screws up the formatting and then autosaves it.

          (I hate google, and I resent that even after I’ve removed all aspects of it from my home & personal usage, I still have to use it at work.)

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        Dude, that email alias feature is the best thing about their password app! I’ve started using it all the time for services, new and old. Will make it easy as hell to find those selling my info.

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          11 months ago

          Yeah the email alias rock. Especially when I was car shopping recently.

          Want my email? Sure, here you go. SPAM? BEGONE, FOREVER BEGONE!

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      11 months ago

      To everyone saying they’ve changed to protonmail, check out https://simplelogin.io/ , owned by proton and free for all paying proton members. Unlimited email aliases so you can have a unique email per service. The apps also on fdroid.

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          11 months ago

          You dont have to switch but if someone is paying for Proton than they can utilize it for no extra charge

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            Ooh so if you are already a Proton Other Things subscriber you get the unlimited alias version for free? Because that’s an excellent reason.

            They should make that more clear in the pricing page.

            Thanks!

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              Yeah I wish they advertised that because it’s an excellent deal. I don’t know if the free Simplelogin Premium applies to all levels of subscription plans but Unlimited for sure has it. Been using it and it’s amazing, it allows you to add PGP encryption through protonmail and simplelogin.

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          I didn’t try Proton’s solution, but free Relay was blocked at some services I tried to use it. It was so weirdly specific since no one really knows about them, so I guess some web admins has enough time on their hands to create a whitelist of all mail services they support, and moz.com wasn’t there.

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            11 months ago

            I just had a company refuse to send to mozmail.com, thought they managed to charge the credit card just fine and the email address didn’t throw an error on sign up. Figured it out on phone with support so they have a record of exactly why they lost that sale worth a few thousand dollars. I’d like to think they’ll learn but more likely the only lesson learned was me re: shopping there.

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            11 months ago

            There are github repositories where people curate a list of domains providing temporary emails or email aliases and admins can just point to the maintained list to block.

            In the ~20 I’ve created so far I’ve had 2 services that wouldn’t accept simple login. For those I’ve used proton mail’s built in email alias service where you get 15 aliases with their proper domain.

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        11 months ago

        I use the web mail client and thunderbird client and it works fine. Protonvpn works fine in arch linux, there’s gui and cli, I prefer cli. Drive isn’t on linux yet but web client works wonderfully fast.

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        11 months ago

        Same, using Proton mail and I am now blissfully Google free. Something else I found the holidays good for is finding out all the old accounts I have floating out there from sites that I interacted with over the years so I can cancel them or change the email if i decide to keep them. But, no more Google! Next on my list is Amazon.

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      11 months ago

      Protonmail isn’t great, their deliberately misleading about the encryption. Many consider protonmail to be a honeypot.

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          11 months ago

          https://www.wired.com/story/protonmail-amends-policy-after-giving-up-activists-data/

          https://cldc.org/does-protonmail-snitch/

          In addition protonmail do not protect your metadata (from memory), it’s not encrypted in transit.

          Protonmail also keep your public and private keys on their servers, it’s PGP however they don’t want the end users to have to manage their own keys. That to me isn’t ideal.

          Receiving from another provider you’ll get TLS encryption until it hits protonmail servers but protonmail will then decrypt your email and again encrypt your email using your PGP stored on their servers.

          Sending an email from proton to another provider will be encrypted on protonmail servers but that’s where it ends. TLS will take care of the in-transit and again may not be stored securely on the receiving end.

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          11 months ago

          Tuta (in my eyes) is a step in the right direction, using a client like thunderbird or enigmail and managing PGP yourself would be more secure as the message is decrypted by the recipient and not a company owned server.

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            11 months ago

            I appreciate the follow up! I’m looking into Tuta to learn more about it! It just sucks Tuta didn’t come up at all when I was researching solid alternatives to Gmail.