• banneryear1868@lemmy.worldOP
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    11 months ago

    Not having a response to issues they raise, specifically with Hunter, trying to obfuscate around it, that’s giving them more power to run on it. There’s no downside to saying “this is the deal with Hunter and political elites shouldn’t be afforded these concessions.” They’re not going to be convinced but you’ve addressed the issue at that point and asserted your own power over it, so move on. Not doing this is like rolling over. If I were an undecided voter seeing Dems bury Biden and get upset like this by it would seem pathetic to me, especially in light of Trump et als constant tax issues.

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      11 months ago

      No, you’re missing the point. You can’t take away their power, and appearing reasonable doesn’t affect their ability to make you look foolish. They aren’t acting in good faith, and facts can’t shed light on their fantasy.

      Plus, the “but Hunter does deserve to be punished” line is already part of the conversation, and they simply ignore that anyone on the left has said it. That’s why it doesn’t matter. They have no obligation to present all the facts, and engagement is an effort that only allows them to stay relevant.

      If I were an undecided voter seeing Dems bury Biden and get upset like this by it would seem pathetic to me, especially in light of Trump et als constant tax issues.

      If this is the matter that convinces people to vote or not vote, they’re deeply unserious, and there’s no reason to think that a zingy one-liner from a right wing pundit at the 11th hour won’t sway them the other way. Better to demonstrate the lack of credibility of their sources (e.g. how Jacobin is dishonestly framing this issue) than engage with the narratives they’re using as bait.

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        11 months ago

        So if it doesn’t matter in the end… why choose the option that looks more pathetic rather than simply say what’s going on? I sent this to someone on the right personally and they sent me back another article they liked… I literally got a conservative to read leftist articles ON THEIR OWN with this. How is that not a win tell me, cause I am just immediately more convinced this is a good idea.

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          I sent this to someone on the right personally and they sent me back another article they liked… I literally got a conservative to read leftist articles ON THEIR OWN with this. How is that not a win tell me, cause I am just immediately more convinced this is a good idea.

          lmao, babby’s first interaction with a conservative.