Going by modern nomenclature, Frasier was a “reboot” of Cheers and Family Matters was a “reboot” of Perfect Strangers (and the first season or two had some REALLY good epsides). Or, to go by more inarguable standards: it isn’t my thing, but The Connors is uniformly praised and is the best that “Roseanne” has been since they stopped caring about being about working class families.
At the end of the day: it is a question of whether the character work of the original was strong enough and if there is a story worth telling with the reboot/spinoff/whatever.
And considering Everybody Loves Raymond didn’t even have a solid story for the original run and had an even more unlikable protagonist than Tim “The Narcman” Taylor…
Nu-Frasier is a “reboot” of good Frasier. It is about Frasier, having moved to a new town, trying to get along with his family that has very different values to him while working at a new job. And, as much as I love old Frasier and consider it one of the top ten shows of all time… it was also about doing a show with (one of) the worst character(s) of Cheers. Just like Nu-Frasier is a spinoff/reboot starring the worst character of Frasier.
Would it be a “spinoff” if the title wasn’t just “Frasier”?
At which point, what is Fuller House? Same cast (minus the Olsens) of the original. Very similar premise. But I guess the title is different so it is a Spinoff. Same with How I Met Your Father.
At which point, what is Fuller House? Same cast (minus the Olsens) of the original.
A sequel series. Plain and simple. The new Frasier is this too.
It takes place some time after the original with mostly the same main characters, and they are the same characters from the original show.
No alternate universe, no alternate versions of characters, no retelling of stories, it’s just that time in the universe has jumped forward a few years.
A spin-off or spinoff is any narrative work derived from an already existing work that focuses on different aspects from the original work.
I think the “focuses on different aspects” is what you’re missing.
It’s well known that Frasier was a spinoff of Cheers. A spinoff generally focueses on a different character, or views the show from a different point of view.
A reboot takes an existing franchise and “reboots” it. Frasier (2023) is generally a reboot because it takes the same show and restarts it. Frasier (1993) took a side character from Cheers and made an entire show about it.
Frasier 1993 and Frasier 2023 are both shows about the life of Frasier Crane.
Cheers is a show about the bar cheers and the regular barflies, and one of them is Frasier Crane. Thus Frasier is a spinoff.
If they took Freddie and made a show called “Freddie” then I would call it a spinoff.
Going by modern nomenclature, Frasier was a “reboot” of Cheers
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here. Frasier was a spin-off.
Family Matters was a “reboot” of Perfect Strangers
This makes even less sense. Family Matters and Perfect Strangers aired concurrently. This is like saying Angel the series was a reboot of Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
What are you on about? Frasier and Family Matters were spin-offs. They came directly after their parent shows, and they were entirely new stories. They weren’t rebooting anything.
Strong disagree
Going by modern nomenclature, Frasier was a “reboot” of Cheers and Family Matters was a “reboot” of Perfect Strangers (and the first season or two had some REALLY good epsides). Or, to go by more inarguable standards: it isn’t my thing, but The Connors is uniformly praised and is the best that “Roseanne” has been since they stopped caring about being about working class families.
At the end of the day: it is a question of whether the character work of the original was strong enough and if there is a story worth telling with the reboot/spinoff/whatever.
And considering Everybody Loves Raymond didn’t even have a solid story for the original run and had an even more unlikable protagonist than Tim “The Narcman” Taylor…
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Nu-Frasier is a “reboot” of good Frasier. It is about Frasier, having moved to a new town, trying to get along with his family that has very different values to him while working at a new job. And, as much as I love old Frasier and consider it one of the top ten shows of all time… it was also about doing a show with (one of) the worst character(s) of Cheers. Just like Nu-Frasier is a spinoff/reboot starring the worst character of Frasier.
Would it be a “spinoff” if the title wasn’t just “Frasier”?
At which point, what is Fuller House? Same cast (minus the Olsens) of the original. Very similar premise. But I guess the title is different so it is a Spinoff. Same with How I Met Your Father.
A sequel series. Plain and simple. The new Frasier is this too.
It takes place some time after the original with mostly the same main characters, and they are the same characters from the original show.
No alternate universe, no alternate versions of characters, no retelling of stories, it’s just that time in the universe has jumped forward a few years.
I think the “focuses on different aspects” is what you’re missing.
It’s well known that Frasier was a spinoff of Cheers. A spinoff generally focueses on a different character, or views the show from a different point of view.
A reboot takes an existing franchise and “reboots” it. Frasier (2023) is generally a reboot because it takes the same show and restarts it. Frasier (1993) took a side character from Cheers and made an entire show about it.
If they took Freddie and made a show called “Freddie” then I would call it a spinoff.
fuller house was a reboot and sequel with the kids now the parents.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here. Frasier was a spin-off.
This makes even less sense. Family Matters and Perfect Strangers aired concurrently. This is like saying Angel the series was a reboot of Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
What are you on about? Frasier and Family Matters were spin-offs. They came directly after their parent shows, and they were entirely new stories. They weren’t rebooting anything.