TBH Christmas in the west is mostly cultural, not religious.
Nobody except for the ultra religious nowadays cares about Christ. And I don’t mean it in a grumpy way, I mean it literally: even in the cheesy hallmark stereotype the “grinches” don’t lack love for Christ, they lack cheer and whatever the cHrIsTmAs sPiRiT is.
Modern day Christmas has origin in religion but has nothing to do with it anymore. If you like lights and reindeers and presents under the tree and fat guys with white beards celebrate it, regardless of whether you are Jewish, Muslim or atheist like a lot of those who do it. If you don’t like those things then don’t, there is no need to motivate it religiously.
“I’m a jew/atheist/muslim therefore I don’t care about Christmas” makes about as much sense as “I’m not a bipedal mouse therefore I don’t care about Disneyland”
Most of the traditions around modern Christmas don’t even have their roots in Christianity. They’re either from various different faiths, or newer inventions of capitalism.
Well i certainly lack love for christ…. And if you enjoy the secular aspects, that’s you’re business, but please don’t stand there and tell me the holiday is entirely secular, not when literally every church here is having a Christmas Eve service and “the true meaning of Christmas” is being put on blast every bit as much as the shitty holiday music is.
Also? I’m not a bipedal mouse and I couldn’t give two rat farts about Disneyland either. (Okay, so one doesn’t follow other, but both are true.)
Churches gonna church. They claim the religiousness of the holiday with the same fervour with which Mussolini claimed Italy to be the Roman Empire, and they are equally laughable.
Much like 1930s Italy with Ancient Rome, Christmas is rooted in Christianity but that’s about it. No amount of preaching can wish the religious holiday back into existence.
And about the “true meaning of Christmas” that sickens you and me alike, how many of those preachings about it are about Christ? If you watch the grinch movie, does it end with him being born again in Jesus?
Of course people that still link Christmas and Christ exist, but they are a laughable minority in the west. hate on Christmas all you want, but do it for the right reasons.
yes, please do keep arguing your domgmatic view and insisting I follow your perceptions of a world that, I’m guessing is quite a bit different than my own.
TBH Christmas in the west is mostly cultural, not religious.
Nobody except for the ultra religious nowadays cares about Christ. And I don’t mean it in a grumpy way, I mean it literally: even in the cheesy hallmark stereotype the “grinches” don’t lack love for Christ, they lack cheer and whatever the cHrIsTmAs sPiRiT is.
Modern day Christmas has origin in religion but has nothing to do with it anymore. If you like lights and reindeers and presents under the tree and fat guys with white beards celebrate it, regardless of whether you are Jewish, Muslim or atheist like a lot of those who do it. If you don’t like those things then don’t, there is no need to motivate it religiously.
“I’m a jew/atheist/muslim therefore I don’t care about Christmas” makes about as much sense as “I’m not a bipedal mouse therefore I don’t care about Disneyland”
Most of the traditions around modern Christmas don’t even have their roots in Christianity. They’re either from various different faiths, or newer inventions of capitalism.
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Well i certainly lack love for christ…. And if you enjoy the secular aspects, that’s you’re business, but please don’t stand there and tell me the holiday is entirely secular, not when literally every church here is having a Christmas Eve service and “the true meaning of Christmas” is being put on blast every bit as much as the shitty holiday music is.
Also? I’m not a bipedal mouse and I couldn’t give two rat farts about Disneyland either. (Okay, so one doesn’t follow other, but both are true.)
Churches gonna church. They claim the religiousness of the holiday with the same fervour with which Mussolini claimed Italy to be the Roman Empire, and they are equally laughable.
Much like 1930s Italy with Ancient Rome, Christmas is rooted in Christianity but that’s about it. No amount of preaching can wish the religious holiday back into existence.
And about the “true meaning of Christmas” that sickens you and me alike, how many of those preachings about it are about Christ? If you watch the grinch movie, does it end with him being born again in Jesus?
Of course people that still link Christmas and Christ exist, but they are a laughable minority in the west. hate on Christmas all you want, but do it for the right reasons.
yes, please do keep arguing your domgmatic view and insisting I follow your perceptions of a world that, I’m guessing is quite a bit different than my own.