It’s “shakeout” time as losses of Netflix rivals top $5 billion
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Disney, Warner, Comcast, and Paramount are contemplating cuts, possible mergers.

It’s “shakeout” time as losses of Netflix rivals top $5 billion | Disney, Warner, Comcast, and Paramount are contemplating cuts, possible mergers.::Disney, Warner, Comcast, and Paramount are contemplating cuts, possible mergers.

  • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
    517·
    11 months ago

    Except the problem is that cable isn’t there to subsidize the content.

    The reason all the studios moved to streaming was because Netflix, Amazon, and Apple weren’t going to cover their total costs.

      • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
        57·
        11 months ago

        I’m not implying that at all.

        All I’m saying is that the industry made a certain amount of money per year based on cable and broadcast and it isn’t going to moving forward. Because of this, I see the so called golden age of television ending because there is no one to pay for the development of new shows and movies, even if those costs were inflated by studios.

        We can pirate what was already made, but I don’t see the new stuff getting made for anywhere near the budget current shows were being made at.

        • ShepherdPie@midwest.socialEnglish
          23·
          11 months ago

          I don’t know how old you are but if you’re close to 40 or older, you may remember the '90s when music studios were in the same position and completely controlled production and distribution, forcing us to pay $20-$30 per CD (in 1990s dollars) for 13 tracks of mostly filler music. Once MP3s and broadband internet became common, the entire industry was decimated, yet there is more music produced now than ever before.

          You’re seeing the same thing happen with tv/movies today. I think it will once again be the studios that suffer not the content.

          • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
            43·
            11 months ago

            More music gets made now, but the market is completely different.

            Bands have generally switched to individual artists with production more handled by others. A majority of a famous singer’s earnings now comes from ticket sales, causing a spike in ticket prices. There is also the chase for virality, seen a lot in both ring tone rap at the nadir of the industry and songs today based mainly on their TikTok hooks.

            TV shows and movies have already lost their “tour” with an overall decline in theatre and we are already seeing a lot of the middle ground of movies that were made 20+ years ago no longer get made.

            Content will still get made, and probably at a similar quantity. However, I expect the industry to continue its trend to either micro budget work or something gigantic with no middle ground, just like with music today.

        • stolid_agnostic@lemmy.mlEnglish
          141·
          11 months ago

          See 10 years ago it was ALL in Netflix and everyone was happy. Studios got to get passive income and we only needed one service. Then the business bros got greedy and decided they needed more money and exclusivity while spending millions to stand up their own inferior services.

          • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
            41·
            11 months ago

            Netflix 10 years ago also got amazing deals because most studio executives didn’t understand streaming and just saw it as some additional money on top of broadcast, DVD, and syndication. Those revenue streams are mostly gone.

            • TwilightVulpine@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              11 months ago

              It’s so good when executives and investors don’t get new stuff, so they don’t come along to squeeze every single penny out of it and choke it to death.

              • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
                1·
                11 months ago

                Maybe, but I still want good new stuff.

                And it isn’t like executives and investors won’t still get rich on making new stuff, they will just cheaper and shittier new stuff.

                • TwilightVulpine@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  11 months ago

                  These folks don’t get satisfied simply making a lot of money, they want to always make more money than before, and that inevitably leads them to sabotage whatever was good about the products they make.

            • stolid_agnostic@lemmy.mlEnglish
              11·
              11 months ago

              That’s part of my point. They don’t have to lift a finger. Just let Netflix pay for the storage, the data centers, the bandwidth. Studios will get something out of it for doing literally nothing. But they got greedy and broke the model.

              • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
                21·
                11 months ago

                For their old stuff, sure.

                But I’m thinking of new movies and TV shows. What kinds of movies can be made a decade from now?

                • stolid_agnostic@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  11·
                  11 months ago

                  That model may also be dead. Nobody really sees movies anymore, not like before, and nobody wants to wait 6 months for the season to end. That’s very much a 1950s - 2010 model. Not sure what will replace it, but some combination of games and informal content like YouTube/TikTok etc might be where we end up.

              • Copernican@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                11 months ago

                Yup. Netflix was icing on the cake that was cable. Now streaming is becoming the cake. The cost or revenue of the cake needs to be the same for the biz to run.

                • stolid_agnostic@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  1·
                  11 months ago

                  I’m referring specifically to older content. Is there really a reason that Star Trek the Next Generation shouldn’t be in Netflix, for example? Paramount isn’t enough of an offer so they may be losing out on a great deal of passive income.