This is a major escalation that could greatly expand the war and drag hezbollah deeper into the war, which was already involved in skirmishes with Israel in Lebanese regions that Israel occupies.

Note: the verbiage of the article is minimizing the focus on Israel, and they spend half the article justifying the attack as “not an attack on Israel” an effort to minimize how much of an escalation this is.

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    You know how fucked up this is when you change the country and you would know your bias.

    Lets try:

    Israil bombed Syria. Israil bombed Jordan. Israil bombed Egypt. Israil bombed Iraq.

    See no one cares…

    Isreal bombed Saudi Arabia. Isreal bombed Iran.

    Now this might start a war but still not bad.

    Isreal bombed Rome. Isreal bombed London. Isreal bombed Washington.

    You see now there is feelings attached, so now take the feelings and apply them to a regular citizens of Lebanon.

    Now the response of these citzen if they did something will get labeled by your government to be anti-semtisim but in reality it doesn’t matter if they were Jew, Christian, or even Muslims Arabs… the hate when other countries bomb your own is the same…

  • Does Israel have a long term strategy other than “kill them all”? Is there any point where they want to coexist with us?

    No need to answer. Studying the history of colonialism and ethnic cleansing in North America and Australia provides us with a clue to what they would do if they could.

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      I think Israel lives on its people considering Arabs their enemy. It makes them tolerate a lot more from their government that they otherwise wouldn’t.

      I think they rather suffocate Palestinians slowly rather than end them all at once.

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        Nothing justifies war crimes but this is exactly what we expected from Israel. Anyone who knows it’s true self expected this. The Palestinian resistance was betting on it expanding to a regional conflict.

        Could Israel Carry Out Another Nakba?

        Expulsionist sentiment is common in Israeli society and politics. To ignore the warning signs is to abdicate responsibility.

        April 19, 2023

        https://jewishcurrents.org/could-israel-carry-out-another-nakba

        The mistake was [some of us Arabs] assuming they’d ever change if we made peace with them.

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      If only this were the only type of military action Israel would pursue.

      I see what you’re saying, but provoking a neighboring country into expanding the war is hardly something to celebrate.

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          Lebanon main govt will recognize the game and let it be. Hezbollah will be upset and launch the same rockets they were going to launch anyway.

          This is the optimistic output, and I hope that’s what happens. But this is a major escalation from Israel, aiming to provoke hezbollah. It would not be any surprising if Hezbollah escalates back accordingly.

          Israel does not gain from this assassination in the way you think. Hamas’ effectiveness is not reduced one bit and Israel knows it. Their only goal is to escalate with Hezbollah, and justify expanding their attacks into Lebanon.

          I just hope that Hezbollah makes a calculated response that does not give Israel the pretext they’re looking for. So far, hezbollah has only attacked Israel in Lebanese territory, not Palestinian. Attacking Israel in Palestine would be a significant escalation but also an appropriate response.

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            How would Hezbollah attack Israel in Palestine? By marching through Israel all the way to WB or Gaza?

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              They don’t have to go that far. They can target Israel in occupied Akka (the occupiers call it Acre).

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                Thanks, I had never heard of that city.

                In 1947, Acre, as part of Mandatory Palestine, had a population of 13,560, of which 10,930 were Muslim and 2,490 were Christian.

                Israel’s Carmeli forces attacked on May 16 and, after an ultimatum was delivered that, unless the inhabitants surrendered, ‘we will destroy you to the last man and utterly,’[48] the town notables signed an instrument of surrender on the night between 17–18 May 1948.

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                  Before the 1948 Arab-Israeli War broke out, the Carmeli Brigade’s 21 Battalion commander had repeatedly damaged the Al-Kabri aqueduct that furnished Acre with water, and when Arab repairs managed to restore water supply, then resorted to pouring flasks of typhoid and dysentery bacteria into the aqueduct, mas part of a biological warfare programme. At some time in late April or early May 1948, - Jewish forces had cut the town’s electricity supply responsible for pumping water - a typhoid epidemic broke out. Israeli officials later credited the facility with which they conquered the town in part to the effects of the demoralization induced by the epidemic.[47]

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    Note: the verbiage of the article is minimizing the focus on Israel, and they spend half the article justifying the attack as “not an attack on Israel” an effort to minimize how much of an escalation this is.

    Note: The verbiage of the article is like that because it’s Reuters, and is reporting only the known facts without any speculation or hyperbole

    OP is most likely more used to tabloid journalism and people screeching their opinions, and so reads articles in a biased mindset

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      The article is full of speculation, opinions and commentary instead of merely presenting facts.

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        I’ve just reread it, and I still don’t see any speculation. They do quote certain sources, but name the sources so you can judge for yourself if they’re telling the truth or not. Again, not hyperbole, but direct quotes

        If you reject Reuters and Associated Press as sources, you’ll end up far more ill-informed, not less, and you’d be incredibly ignorant to dismiss them as biased

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          It looks like the article was updated since I last read it, with the headline changed and a lot more information added, so maybe my claim is not true anymore. But I will tell you what bothered me about it initially anyways.

          “whoever did it, it must be clear: That this was not an attack on the Lebanese state.”

          “Whoever did this did a surgical strike against the Hamas leadership,” Regev said in the interview.

          Those lines are heavily speculative commententary rather than “facts”, aiming to downplay how much of an escalation this is. Those lines are found very high up in the 5th paragraph. It’s the first commentary after saying that Israel refused to comment, and originally there was much less details presented.

          Moreover, the article’s headline (now changed) was something along the lines of “deputy Hamas chief killed in Beirut by blast”. This verbiage has now been changed to “Israeli drone kills deputy Hamas chief”, which is much better. The original is downplaying Israel’s role.

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          One last comment, pointing out biases in Reuters does not mean I ignore them. Every source is biased one way or another, and I still read them (refer to the very post you’re commenting on), albeit with skepticism, carefully scanning for the facts and evidence.

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        What speculation, opinion or commentary is there in the article?

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      Israel can’t eliminate Hamas, but they’re effective at targeting 5 year old children.

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      Eliminate Hamas? The only thing they are doing now is making sure Hamas gets even more recruits at this point! This war is the best thing that happened to Hamas. They get so much attention now and for every person killed there will be 10 more that will fighr against the zionists.