Publically and condescendingly berating a (presumably) grown man in front of his entire family, infantilizing him and the crypto thing, the little power demonstration with the drinks, getting everyone to laugh at the poor jobless bastard?
Not sure how wholesome that seems to me. Chewing someone out in public, especially at dinner, is asshole behavior. Being overbearingly “positive” about it on the surface doesn’t really help.
If I’m going to work every day to support your fat lazy adult ass while you blow money on jpgs of monkeys I’m within my rights to bust your balls about it and you’re lucky I haven’t thrown you out and turned your basement into a home gym
Who says it’s tough love? These are human beings, and they’ve been put in a really frustrating position. Denigrating someone who buys nfts is an appropriate response. Especially if they did it with your money.
Your child being a jobless loser isn’t justification to publicly shame them in front of family. Especially because you are enabling them. How about instead of shaming them you kick them out of the house?
If some 30 year old who never had a job and is trying get rich quick schemes like crypto while still living at home, then they deserve to be talked down to.
Imagine being a guest at this dinner and watching this guy belittle his (admittedly not doing great) son in front of you as some sort of weird familial power play while airing the family’s dirty laundry.
I don’t care if Dad is correct, Dad is just as socially retarded as son. It’s where son learned it.
Exactly this. I have no idea how people are justifying dragging someone through the mud in front of people. Imagining being anon is obviously rough (which is probably why someone posted this almost certainly hypothetical scenario), but just having a place at this table would be extremely awkward.
It’s fiction. I still don’t understand how so many of you take all these posts as descriptions of something that actually occurred. It is a level of gullibility you usually refer to the so called boomers.
I’d argue they weren’t berating him. Nothing in that statement implied they were angry. They just want better for him and will hold him (at least partially) accountable (by not letting him drink).
OK, whether the specific term “berating” is semantically correct or not, that’s not particularly relevant to whether or not it’s decent behavior. It is still an ostentatious, infantilizing putdown of anon. In company, and in a setting that’s looking a lot like “dinner with the extended family”.
Even if anon is the deadbeatiest deadbeat to ever deadbeat, that is… asshole behavior. Pure and simple. Maybe the anon of this fake greentext deserves that?
I have a hard time imagining both those lines coming from the same person. Maybe, I guess? But I agree, 1 is loving and supportive; 2 is mean & hurtful.
What a terrible family op (greentext op) must have.
All I can say is that, yes, this absolutely happens to people. Sometimes abuse is loud, bold, and psychologically twisted like this. Other times, it’s well-placed silence.
PSA: If you have anyone you care about with bad family like this, and know you can provide a better environment for just a few hours, have them over for a family meal. You’ll make a friend for life.
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Publically and condescendingly berating a (presumably) grown man in front of his entire family, infantilizing him and the crypto thing, the little power demonstration with the drinks, getting everyone to laugh at the poor jobless bastard?
Not sure how wholesome that seems to me. Chewing someone out in public, especially at dinner, is asshole behavior. Being overbearingly “positive” about it on the surface doesn’t really help.
If I’m going to work every day to support your fat lazy adult ass while you blow money on jpgs of monkeys I’m within my rights to bust your balls about it and you’re lucky I haven’t thrown you out and turned your basement into a home gym
Maybe, for some definition of “rights”. If doing it in public, it would still 100% make you an asshole no matter how right you were.
Agreed. It sounds like this is a family dinner at home, though. Anons family already know he’s a loser.
My interpretation was this was Christmas dinner, and they had extended family & friends over.
“MOM, MEATLOAF! FUCK! I never know what she’s doing up there”
Because feeding their depression is the best way to fix the problem.
If he believes it’s his parents job to fix him that’s about 75% of the problem right there
There’s a difference between not helping and actively hurting. “Though love” is just bullshit.
Who says it’s tough love? These are human beings, and they’ve been put in a really frustrating position. Denigrating someone who buys nfts is an appropriate response. Especially if they did it with your money.
We’re arguing strawman vs strawman. I’m bailing.
I’m not strawmanning, the OPs screenshot mentions specifically that they were criticizing him for buying NFTs and not having a job
That’s what being a parent is about though.
Supporting your children well into adulthood and solving mental issues you’re not qualified to address is a parents job?
Your child being a jobless loser isn’t justification to publicly shame them in front of family. Especially because you are enabling them. How about instead of shaming them you kick them out of the house?
How to turn a jobless loser into a meth addicted street urchin.
Hey meth ain’t free, congratulations you fixed the failure to launch problems
Depends entirely on the age.
If some 30 year old who never had a job and is trying get rich quick schemes like crypto while still living at home, then they deserve to be talked down to.
Imagine being a guest at this dinner and watching this guy belittle his (admittedly not doing great) son in front of you as some sort of weird familial power play while airing the family’s dirty laundry.
I don’t care if Dad is correct, Dad is just as socially retarded as son. It’s where son learned it.
Exactly this. I have no idea how people are justifying dragging someone through the mud in front of people. Imagining being anon is obviously rough (which is probably why someone posted this almost certainly hypothetical scenario), but just having a place at this table would be extremely awkward.
It’s fiction. I still don’t understand how so many of you take all these posts as descriptions of something that actually occurred. It is a level of gullibility you usually refer to the so called boomers.
I’d argue they weren’t berating him. Nothing in that statement implied they were angry. They just want better for him and will hold him (at least partially) accountable (by not letting him drink).
OK, whether the specific term “berating” is semantically correct or not, that’s not particularly relevant to whether or not it’s decent behavior. It is still an ostentatious, infantilizing putdown of anon. In company, and in a setting that’s looking a lot like “dinner with the extended family”.
Even if anon is the deadbeatiest deadbeat to ever deadbeat, that is… asshole behavior. Pure and simple. Maybe the anon of this fake greentext deserves that?
Nothing like knowing your whole family thinks you are a loser during christmas, and being sickly sweet about it.
Just looking at this picture my brain made enough cortisol for the rest of the day.
First paragraph? Absolutely. I would love that level of engagement and personal interest from family.
Second response and the punchline? Well, that’s what we’re here for. Of course it’s awful.
I have a hard time imagining both those lines coming from the same person. Maybe, I guess? But I agree, 1 is loving and supportive; 2 is mean & hurtful.
What a terrible family op (greentext op) must have.
It’s great that you’ve never had a passive aggressive family member to deal with.
All I can say is that, yes, this absolutely happens to people. Sometimes abuse is loud, bold, and psychologically twisted like this. Other times, it’s well-placed silence.
PSA: If you have anyone you care about with bad family like this, and know you can provide a better environment for just a few hours, have them over for a family meal. You’ll make a friend for life.
Hell