Cops in the United States have killed more people in 2023 than any other year in the past decade.
          • 520@kbin.social
            6·
            11 months ago

            I’m saying cops have a history and reputation of using force when it is plain not needed. They are trained to do as much. Then they use the ‘fear for their life defence’, because here’s the kicker: their assessment doesn’t have to be the least bit accurate.

            See for reference Daniel Shaver. Dude was shot and killed for trying to pull his pants up. Look up the body cam. The cop that shot him was basically exonerated and even managed to win damages for the fact that he shot the guy.

            • pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.onlineEnglish
              13·
              11 months ago

              I like the part where I never said otherwise, but you’re supplying single instances of police abusing their power.

              Just because some cop involved shootings are unwarranted doesn’t mean every cop involved shooting is unwarranted.

              Don’t get me wrong, I want major police reform like you do, but let’s not be disingenuous about the statistics.

              • 520@kbin.social
                3·
                11 months ago

                I like the part where I never said otherwise, but you’re supplying single instances of police abusing their power.

                I provided one example. There are hundreds upon hundreds of others.

                Or perhaps I should provide you links about how this is literally how they’re trained to operate?

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETf7NJOMS6Y

                But it’s not like I’ve been saying that cops never actually face threats. They do. But they treat literally everything as a threat on the off chance that they might accidentally be correct.

      • CareHareEnglish
        32·
        11 months ago

        That’s not worse, that’s one less pig in the street.

  • doppelgangmember@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    11 months ago

    Doesn’t include lives unnecessarily affected or people wounded though… so not the full story I’d say, just the extremes which are still bad.

  • Showroom7561@lemmy.caEnglish
    43·
    11 months ago

    Context matters, though. Having watched enough police body cam videos where people just start shooting at police for standard traffic stops, it’s no wonder why there’s a “kill or be killed” attitude with every American police interaction.

    Of course, there are always innocent victims, which is tragic no matter the situation.

    But I think there’s a large majority of people who are killed by police as either suicide by cop or because they initiated deadly force first.