• abraxas
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    1 year ago

    Anything someone feels forced to eat against their will is “shit”. You’d have every right to call meat shit if someone made it the only food available to you.

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      1 year ago

      Who’s being forced to eat something against their will? People should be able to make the choice to eat what they want based on all the information available. Unfortunately there is a lot of misinformation about animal agriculture so many people don’t have all the info.

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        A lot of the vegans here are pushing for the end of all meat-eating, so a lot of the non-vegans here (like the guy you responded to about “eating that shit”) feel like “nobody should be eating meat anymore” means “you shouldn’t eat meat anymore”.

        Whether “you” is part of “nobody” is a challenging question. I’ve met plenty of vegans who push for meat bans, and plenty of vegans who otherwise somehow think “since veg tastes good and the only people who eat meat do so feeling guilty, we’ll eventually all be vegan anyway”. The former are a threat (sorry, they are), and the latter are not worth treating like one.

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          You can feel however you want but the fact is nobody here is forcing anything to do anything.

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            Oh some people are trying.

            Many of the rest are trying to coerce people into doing things. From a legal/ethical point of view, people typically consider that a form of a forcing.

            And I can feel or not feel however I want, but the fact that you decided to bring up my feelings doesn’t change facts.

            Most importantly, I have clearly explained why the original comment was justified in using the word “shit” and a vegan would be justified in using the word “shit”. Heaven forbid vegans are on the same plane of existence as we mere mortals. No, you’re right. Vegans can use cuss words, but we non-vegans must bow and say “I understand that only vegetables taste good and that meat is horrible, but I eat meat because I like to feel guilty and want to burn in hell. Please judge me”

            Or maybe the top comment really was justified in using the word “shit”. Please leave your reddit at the door. You’ll track in mud.

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        If you want to. I’m not sure why you would. It doesn’t taste that good, as most dog breeds were bred for work and not flavor.

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            I’ve never tried horse meat. I’ve heard bad things about it being incredibly muscly and gamey, as well as expensive. Are there any upsides for me to consider it?

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              I was half joking, but I had some by accident in France and it was very good as sausage. I’ve never had it in any other format.

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                Interesting! I recently had gator jerky I enjoyed. I’m not one of those “off-put” by what animal meat comes from. But I often want to know why I should try it. As you can see in my other replies, I’m a foodie and I like to truly understand what goes into the food I consume both literally and figuratively. To the extent I learned how to distill my own whiskey when I learned it was legal/decriminalized where I live.

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          but it’s just not legal. how are you able to survive while laws and social norms stop you eating absolutely anything?

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            but it’s just not legal

            You’re right that it’s not. I’m not sure how I feel on food bans, personally. Probably very negative.

            how are you able to survive while laws and social norms stop you eating absolutely anything?

            I’m not sure what you’re asking here. Social norms don’t stop anything except someone’s consented will. My wife won’t eat rabbit, but it has nothing to do with being forced against it.