it looks like implications of Kakao dispute is getting harder

    • Tavi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      1 year ago

      Fresh install, it works! Extensions are required to be “trusted” but other than that everything seems to be in the same place.

    • ReluctantZen@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Do you need to reinstall the extensions for this? I can’t get it to work with TachiyomiSY. Edit: maybe some extra context: TachiyomiSY is still attempting to fetch stuff from the removed repo, even though I’ve added the new one, so it still fails.

  • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    38
    ·
    1 year ago

    Unofficial extensions are still being updated. I’ve got working bato and everything. Haven’t run into issues so far. I’m not sure how this korean company got to them or why, since they’re not even hosting the content. But either way, things should be good for now.

    Tachiyomi is too good to fail. It’s the best manga reader that has ever existed. It’s open source. If they need to offload extension support onto less organized entities, then so be it. The community isn’t going to disappear.

    • mnemonicmonkeys
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I’m not sure how this korean company got to them or why

      They just sent a hail mary DCMA directly to the devs that’s not even enforceable. If it was, they’d have to go through GitHub with a DCMA request. But the Tachiyomi devs folded for no reason

      • Coasting0942@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        But the Tachiyomi devs folded for no reason

        Easy to say when you’re not the one getting the notice/threat

        • mnemonicmonkeys
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          A notice that couldn’t be enforced. They could have told Kakao to file their DCMA through GitHub like they’re supposed to do. If the DCMA is filed outside that it’s not enforceable

          • Coasting0942@reddthat.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Again. It’s easy for you to say when you’re not the one getting the notice.

            Maybe the Dev has too much crap to deal with in their life. They are making software for free already. And now they’re expected to add another mental task?

            Maybe they just hate confrontation. Or have heard stories of what corporations can do to those that piss then off. Heard lots of stories of the little guy beating a corporation lately?

    • ardi60@reddthat.comOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      1 year ago

      I think their strategy is fine to avoid any potential lawsuits like Paperback. But, their notice period is quite surprising.

    • Uiop@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yes but just because they dont want to deal with the hastle doesnt mean others wont keep supporting it. Especially in the manga-space where stealing is very much an everyday occurrance

    • MomoTimeToDie
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      36
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      The devs just completely folded to some bogus copyright claims against their extentions

    • Neshura@bookwormstory.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      25
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Essentially Kakao Entertainment abused DMCA to get all extensions removed despite the Extensions themselves not containing any DMCA material. What allowed this to spiral so out of control (it started out with only Bato.to, Mangadex and Kissmanga being removed) was that the Tachiyomi devs have absolutely 0 spine and 0 will to prevent DMCA abuse. They just folded at the requests immediately without any sort objection or demand to go through GitHub instead (this approach in particular has worked in warding off false DMCA claims because that way the corporations have to somewhat publicly press their illegitimate claim, worked wonders for youtube-dl afaik)

  • Neshura@bookwormstory.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    1 year ago

    Not surprised in the slightest. Having a doormat DMCA policy and then not even using GitHub as a shield (like youtube-dl for example) is just asking for it. The dev response doesn’t really help so I guess the App is dead. Maybe a fork will pick up the pieces but I have no trust in the main repo devs to do the right thing or work in the users interest.

    • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      If you don’t already have one, use Kavita instead. It’s newer, has surpassed the Komga interface, and is still supported on T.

        • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          Oh, Komga is good, I just find everything about Kavita to be more modern. More options for layouts, deeper filtering, tablet and more phone friendly UI, etc.

      • kratoz29@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        How about the order of the contents? I actually have both installed but use Komga exclusively because Kavita always wanted to order my comics their way and not in the way I wanted (folder order).

        • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Ahh, I tag my media using Mylar3, which adds a ComicInfo.xml to each file. Kavita seems to prioritize that over the filesystem.

      • Klystron
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Where are you guys sourcing your manga? I’ve bought a few on Amazon and converted them to epub. I also have some raws from bookwalker but as far as I can tell their stuff is super locked down. Where else could I acquire manga?

  • CerineArkweaver@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    1 year ago

    I did an export/archive of the Git repo from a commit before they got rid of Batoto and Mangadex right after they nuked them (ie, no Git data, just the bare source code) yesterday morning. I’d be willing to share it with someone willing to rehost/restart development on them.

  • FawkesGil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    1 year ago

    What does this mean? Are they gonna remove all extensions just like that? We have to download the mangas now just to read them?

    • jacktherippah@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Yes. Tachiyomi has removed all extensions from the app. Forks like TachiJ2K are affected as well. However, you can still download and use the existing extensions. They’ve been backed up to some external repos. Just choose the new repos as the extension source and you’re good to go. But as they’re not getting fixes and such anymore, those existing extensions will only continue to work until they don’t anymore. After that, idk, maybe some new extensions will be developed by someone else, or you’ll just have to bring your own content.

    • ardi60@reddthat.comOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      1 year ago

      yeah, the main repo on Github have been deleted. we have to rely on external sources.

  • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    1 year ago

    What an unfortunate (or maybe fortunate?) time to have installed Tachiyomi for offline reading

    I guess I should be glad I was able to get what I needed before this happened