We didn’t give it directly to Ukraine, which is why this is happening.
A bunch of countries were donating equipment through the same few routes thru the same countries.
Even if it was cataloged and documented properly, it takes time to go all thru the chain all the way to the end and hear back. Especially since all the countries are probably asking.
Who gives a fuck? We are destroying our greatest political rival for pennies on the dollar.
I mean it’s 1 billion dollars of military equipment. Probably don’t want that falling into the wrong hands.
That’s just spare change for the Pentagon. Almost a rounding error when it comes to unaccounted for money in their audits.
This time around, 1,600 auditors combed through DOD’s $3.8 trillion in assets and $4 trillion in liabilities, conducting some 700 site visits. They found that half of DOD’s assets can’t be accounted for.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4313887-pentagon-fails-sixth-audit-in-a-row/
Second greatest after each other but it’s close.
Pretty sure Russia only comes in second on that list (after China), but you’re right about the rest of it.
Yeah, totally not a problem to have fascist groups armed with military gear running around in Europe. It was so much fun when that happened in the 80s.
This is dumb. Most likely they just weren’t catalogued correctly because they were rushing stuff to the front lines. Doubtful anything went missing it’s just paperwork errors.
Or - and this is heavily documented - the US Military has never passed any audit since they began being audited. This is just part of that.
Doesn’t mean we don’t support Ukraine. Just means we need to hold the military accountable for the funds provided.
the US Military has never passed any audit since they began being audited. This is just part of that.
That’s mainly because there’s a shit ton of agencies in the DOD, and they send money between themselves and non DOD agencies constantly.
If I pay you $100, but we lose the reciept, there’s no missing money. Just a missing receipt.
However for those government audits, if we both were part of it then we’d each be off by $100. And rather than cancel those, they add them together and say combined we’re “missing” $200
So the public hears about these huge numbers that probably don’t matter, and hardly anyone hears the actual number of missing money to know if we really should be mad.
I’ve seen dod finance. The amount of paperwork to move money within an agency is ridiculous. Between is even more. If they don’t have a receipt, it’s deliberate or gross negligence.
I’ve seen dod finance
If you had “seen” it, you’d know not to say that randomly on a public social media website.
You’d also know what you’re talking about…
Lol, what? Do you have any idea how many people work for the DoD in finance or adjacent to finance? The entire Program Management track is huge. It’s not a crime or even recommended to pretend you don’t work for or with the DoD. It’s very clear what is classified information, CUI, or financially privileged. And there’s TONS of contractors who interface with the DoD in financial matters.
DoD finance is all about bureaucracy: just like most of the DoD and US government itself. There’s so many hoops to jump through to move money it’s insane. Money expires yearly in many cases. That old adage of units spending money in September is somewhat true: sending money you didn’t spend back at the end of the fiscal year is frowned upon. On and on and on I and anyone else with even a toe dipped in could go.
Shit, most DoD finance is public: the NDAA lists top-level spending allocations. Really it’s just non-acknowledged programs where the funding isn’t public. Which is where I imagine a lot of the shenanagins get up to. Your paranoia is silly.
Til being a low level bureaucrat or military member is unheard of and absolutely never talked about online.
This is a good take but it disregards the realities of the financial recipients being unable to account for funds spent. I agree there are special circumstances but we need to have visibility to those realities as benefactors. Otherwise how can we allocate funds democratically.
If they kept records, how would they get away with diverting so much of the money back into their pockets?
Lol literally no way to find out because they don’t track it and have no reason to do it.
Hmmmm… where have I heard this before? 🤔
Oh! Right!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1
"The US flew nearly $12bn in shrink-wrapped $100 bills into Iraq, then distributed the cash with no proper control over who was receiving it and how it was being spent.
. . .
In the year after the invasion of Iraq in 2003 nearly 281 million notes, weighing 363 tonnes, were sent from New York to Baghdad for disbursement to Iraqi ministries and US contractors. Using C-130 planes, the deliveries took place once or twice a month with the biggest of $2,401,600,000 on June 22 2004, six days before the handover."
It’s almost like the people in charge of this kind of thing REALLY should not be in charge of this kind of thing…
That’s peanuts compared to what they “lost” in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Meaning they didn’t count each and every weapon fired and record exactly which Russian it hit.
Keep deluding yourself and others.
Arms sent to Ukraine will end up in criminal hands, says Interpol chief
Nato and EU sound alarm over risk of Ukraine weapons smuggling
I don’t get you. In a deep dive thru your posts it seems you’re very passionate about Palestine but also very critical of Ukraine. I’m inclined to believe you’re an agitator just stirring the pot. Convince me otherwise.
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Lemmy is full of tankies. It’s a lot of fun shattering their echo chamber.
I am a follower and admirer of Noam Chomsky. I am critical of the government of Ukraine and US neocon involvement in instigating the war.
The shortest possible reason why I say US instigating the war, is this interview by Chomsky 8 years ago.
The detailed history is in the book by Richard Sakwa called Frontline Ukraine.
Some other people that shaped my thinking about this issue are John Mearshiemer, the late Stephen F Cohen, and Peter Hitchens.
Support for Palestinians should be obvious.
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As you brought up People being delusional…
This is the best summary I could come up with:
WASHINGTON (AP) — Shortfalls in required monitoring by American officials mean the U.S. cannot track more than $1 billion in weapons and military equipment provided to Ukraine to fight invading Russian forces, according to a Pentagon audit released Thursday.
Citing what he said was Russian disinformation to the contrary, Ryder added, “The fact is, we observed the Ukrainians employing these capabilities on the battlefield.
House Republican opposition for months has stalled Biden’s request to Congress for $105 billion more for Ukraine, Israel and other national security objectives.
National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said Thursday that there was no funding left for additional military aid packages to Ukraine.
The U.S. has provided tens of billions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine, including big systems such as air defense.
Kirby said administration officials “has for many months now been interested in improving accountability over the end use of material that is provided to Ukraine.”
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I’m sure sloppily executed arms proliferation has never come back to bite the US in it’s ass, no biggie. At least we we’re sending them to the reasonable side this time.
This isn’t arms proliferation, this is providing support for a country defending itself from invasion.
If it’s not accounted for it’s exactly proliferation, it just ended up somewhere less horrible than usual, maybe anyway, we don’t know.
