• Diotima@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Biden may not be as bad as Trump by far, but he’s not a good candidate. If Trump wins, it’ll be in large part because the Democratic elite once again put forward a bad candidate with bad baggage instead of finding someone that would energize those outside the core.

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      It’s incredibly depressing we need to be energized in order to stop such an incredibly clear and obvious threat to democracy. Biden isn’t my first choice by any means but the idea that I’d have to be convinced at this point on how to vote is insane. Yes the Democrats should be doing more and messaging better. Yes we need better candidates. But the Republican party is now an existential threat, we have to avoid giving them power at all costs. That has to be priority because that’s the only way forward.

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        11 months ago

        Then they need to pick a candidate who will appeal to a broader base of voters. This idea that Biden, a neoconservative only appealing because Trump is batshit crazy, is “owed” the candidacy is lunacy. If the priority is defeating Trump, then they need to select someone who can succeed with a healthy margin, not a candidate who has lost enough of his swing voters to make his victory extremely questionable.

        Reality? Democrats… or at least the DNC… feel that they are “owed” those votes. Every time they lose, they blame third parties, voters who abstain, sun spots, dark sorcery… anything that will allow them to avoid introspection. It’s time they took responsibility, listened to the people who could actually win them this election.

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          11 months ago

          “They” being the millions of voters who select Biden as the nominee? Or are you just removing their agency because they didn’t vote for the guy you liked?

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            11 months ago

            Is that what we’re calling the extremely undemocratic process of nomination in the DNC? We do not select our candidates, the party elites do.

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              11 months ago

              That’s funny, I definitely voted in the primary. You seem confused.

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                  Bernie was on my ballot. I know because I voted for him twice. But please, do remove the agency of the millions of voters who chose otherwise.

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                    11 months ago

                    And nearly all 700 superdelegate party elite votes went to Clinton, which was more than enough to override any effort by grassroots activists to effect meaningful change. I mean, they’ve stated as much themselves; the superdelegate system is designed as a failsafe against the party commoners. Hell, they’ve even argued that if they wished, they could ignore the results and appoint who they like.

                    You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that your party elite haven’t rigged the system to silence your voice if you like. Or, you can educate yourself on how your party nominations actually function.

                    For a Democratic party, the process is pretty undemocratic.