• Locuralacura@lemm.ee
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      2 years ago

      I think America is one of the participatory democratic countries. But many other countries are not. What are you actually confused about??

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          The largest emitter of greenhouse gasses, and CO2 is China, which not a democratic county. The second largest is United States. Idk how to discuss the possibility of ‘voting’ the climate change problem away without mentioning these two nations.

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            You didn’t mention who was the largest consumer of Chinese goods which were produced in lieu of all that co2.

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              What the hell are you going on with all this US brabbling

              Well well well, now you want to discuss US? Now it suddenly seems relevant? Hmmmmm.

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                  Okay, but I was replying to that user. Americans must stop consuming, and that is not controversial at all.

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                    For sure. But it’s not just Americans. They might be the biggest offenders but the problem of over consumerism has plagued the entire world. At this point our economy is global. The tentacles of capitalism have invaded every corner of the planet.

                    Our problems today were manufactured well over a hundred years ago. It’s only taken this long for it all to finally catch up.

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              Okay. Thanks for politely correcting me. But which country is the largest emitter of CO2?

              https://www.statista.com/statistics/271748/the-largest-emitters-of-co2-in-the-world/

              Not that this changes anything. It’s just another idiotic talking point as you so politely pointed out. But then again, I never asserted the idiotic notion that we could simply vote the problem away either.

              You did.

              Then you politely pointed out that it was stupid to talk about America.

              Then you made sure to call me an idiot, because America is the largest emitter of greenhouse gasses.

              Care to elaborate on any of this in a productive manner?

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                  How shall I help again exactly? Voting? I didn’t blame China, I simply pointed out that your solution, ‘voting’ doesn’t work in a place that doesn’t have participatory democracy. China is to blame just like America is. The wealthy, powerful Chinese and Americans, who actually could do something besides idiotically arguing, decide to continue fucking the world, our children’s futures, and everything else that gets in the way of their maintaining that power. Mostly the people with power over the problem actively ignore or disregard the problem. I do vote. I pick up trash. I avoid buying new stuff, beyond that, since I’m not the CEO of Exon Mobil, I really don’t have agency.