I can’t phantom spending more than $25k on a new car (for myself, I don’t need a family vehicle). I’m in the market for a used car around $15k and even that seems steep. With this article saying average prices are around $40k and 82% of Americans make under $100k, I have to assume people are seriously struggling to afford anything if much of it is going towards car expenses. And that’s just for a car, not to mention housing, food, etc.
Edit: oh…
Manufacturers cite disappointing sales results as primary reasons for discontinuing smaller, more affordable vehicles from their lineup," Yoon explained.
“But car buyers’ preferences have also shifted dramatically to larger trucks and SUVs in the past 10 years or so, and even more towards high-tech and comfort amenities in the form of cameras, sensors, radars and large infotainment screens,” he said.
Yeah, I’d be a-okay with an fm radio and roll down windows in a compact hatchback, thanks. You people with your fancy cars. It’s all going to be trash with the flick of a firmware update.
Yup, I buy exclusively used cars. If manufacturers made simple, cheap, reliable cars, I’d consider buying new. But all the new stuff has so many electronics in it that longer term maintenance is a pain.
I’d love an EV with 150-200 mile range and almost no tech. I don’t even need fast charging, as long as I can recharge overnight. I don’t need driving assist (I don’t work that far away), fancy infotainment, just a radio and an audio jack for my phone. I just want to get to work and back as cheaply as possible, that’s it.
This is like the optimal use case for an electric car too. Everyone around me keeps complaining about not being able to go on road trips due to battery while never actually going on any, also bitching about the gas, and having three different vehicles of different sizes. Like come on it’s not that fucking hard. Ev for work and groceries, your shitty ass smog camper for road trips you never go on. But even if I spell it out simple they are all Facebook conspiracy loonies and/or mentally challenged trumpster fires and won’t stop spewing the same nonsense
Yup. I already have two cars, a larger car for family trips (minivan), and a commuter (hybrid). The family car isn’t likely to be an EV anytime soon, but the commuter could, but I’m not paying $50k for something that’s way overkill, I just need you get to work and back.
The Chevy Bolt and Leaf are close, and I’ll probably get one eventually, but they’re just a little too expensive for me to replace my currently working car. I want something with an inexpensive battery so I can replace it in 5-10 years without going broke.
I was planning on converting the 83 Honda or the scirocco myself but right around when I had saved up enough money the dollar tanked compared to USD and a lot of stuff would come from there if I didn’t order by the seacan amount. Now I can barely afford anything let alone the batteries or any of the work on the car really.
Yeah, I’d be a-okay with an fm radio and roll down windows in a compact hatchback, thanks. You people with your fancy cars. It’s all going to be trash with the flick of a firmware update.
Nobody makes fun of my wife’s little econobox anymore. 1.2 liter engine, 5 speed, and a radio.
I’ve been seriously considering a 1970’s VW Beetle. My main hesitation / red flag, of all the things that could be a concern with such an old car, is lack of power steering and my need to parallel park in the city.
Speaking as someone who has suffered an original air cooled Beetle, they’re cool but I wouldn’t try to daily it. The lack of power steering would be far, far down your list of issues you will run into.
But for paralell parking a beetle specifically it can be a challenge, because reverse doesn’t work like you expect. You have to push the gear lever down, like straight down toward the ground, and hold it, to put it in reverse. So you have to steer with one hand and hold the shifter with the other.
I can’t phantom spending more than $25k on a new car (for myself, I don’t need a family vehicle). I’m in the market for a used car around $15k and even that seems steep. With this article saying average prices are around $40k and 82% of Americans make under $100k, I have to assume people are seriously struggling to afford anything if much of it is going towards car expenses. And that’s just for a car, not to mention housing, food, etc.
Edit: oh…
Yeah, I’d be a-okay with an fm radio and roll down windows in a compact hatchback, thanks. You people with your fancy cars. It’s all going to be trash with the flick of a firmware update.
Yup, I buy exclusively used cars. If manufacturers made simple, cheap, reliable cars, I’d consider buying new. But all the new stuff has so many electronics in it that longer term maintenance is a pain.
I’d love an EV with 150-200 mile range and almost no tech. I don’t even need fast charging, as long as I can recharge overnight. I don’t need driving assist (I don’t work that far away), fancy infotainment, just a radio and an audio jack for my phone. I just want to get to work and back as cheaply as possible, that’s it.
This is like the optimal use case for an electric car too. Everyone around me keeps complaining about not being able to go on road trips due to battery while never actually going on any, also bitching about the gas, and having three different vehicles of different sizes. Like come on it’s not that fucking hard. Ev for work and groceries, your shitty ass smog camper for road trips you never go on. But even if I spell it out simple they are all Facebook conspiracy loonies and/or mentally challenged trumpster fires and won’t stop spewing the same nonsense
Yup. I already have two cars, a larger car for family trips (minivan), and a commuter (hybrid). The family car isn’t likely to be an EV anytime soon, but the commuter could, but I’m not paying $50k for something that’s way overkill, I just need you get to work and back.
The Chevy Bolt and Leaf are close, and I’ll probably get one eventually, but they’re just a little too expensive for me to replace my currently working car. I want something with an inexpensive battery so I can replace it in 5-10 years without going broke.
I was planning on converting the 83 Honda or the scirocco myself but right around when I had saved up enough money the dollar tanked compared to USD and a lot of stuff would come from there if I didn’t order by the seacan amount. Now I can barely afford anything let alone the batteries or any of the work on the car really.
Nobody makes fun of my wife’s little econobox anymore. 1.2 liter engine, 5 speed, and a radio.
I’ve been seriously considering a 1970’s VW Beetle. My main hesitation / red flag, of all the things that could be a concern with such an old car, is lack of power steering and my need to parallel park in the city.
Speaking as someone who has suffered an original air cooled Beetle, they’re cool but I wouldn’t try to daily it. The lack of power steering would be far, far down your list of issues you will run into.
But for paralell parking a beetle specifically it can be a challenge, because reverse doesn’t work like you expect. You have to push the gear lever down, like straight down toward the ground, and hold it, to put it in reverse. So you have to steer with one hand and hold the shifter with the other.
Good to know about reverse. Thanks.
Wouldn’t be a “daily” per se but an occasional weekend and holiday car. Like, easily under 5k miles a year.
Oh, perfect for that.