More insurance companies are fleeing the state because of the growing threat from natural disasters.

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    So serious question, does the fact that insurance companies are giving up millions of potential customers prove that climate change/disaster is real?

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      IIRC, that’s part of why they’re pulling out of Florida. DeSantis made it law that they can’t change premiums based on climate change, so they’ve decided it makes more sense for them to pull out than risk huge payouts when they can’t change premiums.

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      Just look at the rising water temperatures. It will be an interesting hurricane season this year.

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        No fucking kidding, eh?

        I hope that the wind shear from the el Nino holds up for the people in the US and parts of Canada. It seems like the NOAA are thinking that this el Nino might not be as much of a saving grace as usual. The current temperatures are worse than they were at the peak of any other hurricaine season, and this one is still just getting started. I’m concerned with how bad the temperatures will be at the peak.

        From what I read, we haven’t really experienced this before. This year’s sea temperatures are the hottest on record. We’re already getting to the point where things will become increasingly difficult to predict.

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          Wait, this El Nino was supposed to be a saving grace? I’ve only heard of it meaning hotter surface temperatures. Hot summers, mild winters are what I associate with El Nino, and the opposite with La Nina.

          The things I’ve read have been saying that the last few years of La Nina have made the warning trend seem more mild and now this El Nino will show how much things have actually progressed in that time.

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            I meant that mainly in terms of the hurricaine season. During an el Nino, the Pacific ocean begins to heat more than it normally would during a la Nina. This heat creates an undraft of sorts that pushes a lot of air towards the east. These updrafts can kind of “axe” a developing storm. They can obliterate a small hurricaine or tropical depression.

            When the Atlantic ocean is hotter, the storms that come from it tend to be stronger. We have never had sea temperatures this high, so it’s a bit of a guessing game to whether or not those updrafts from the Pacific ocean will continue to “axe” storms coming in from the Atlantic. The gulf of Mexico is also pretty hot, and it lies on the other side of the jet streams that come from the Pacific updrafts.

            We have to hope that a hurricaine doesn’t make it beyond that jet stream, as those water temperatures are currently perfect for a bad hurricaine.

            Unfortunately, we don’t really have much data on these conditions yet, since we haven’t really seen them happen before. We will have to wait and see which of the opposing forces is stronger.

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              That’s pretty cool! I love it when I think I have a basic grasp on something and get smacked with more complexity. Earth is neat with all of these carefully balanced systems that just happen to keep it in habitable ranges. I’m glad humanity is doing everything it can to respect that and keep Earth going and not change things so drastically that we just blast past or through the check mechanisms!

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      I don’t think most of deniers deny the climate change is real, they moved the goalposts to “it’s not caused by humans” a while ago and I’m pretty sure they’re currently shifting them again to “it’s too late do anything anways”.