The Threadiverse is growing again, this time offering an effort to build a new Lemmy replacement from scratch, with API compatibility.

Seems like an interesting effort. A developer is building an alternative Java-based backend to Lemmy’s Rust-based one, with the goal of building in a handful of different features. The dev is looking at using this compatibility to migrate their instance over to the new platform, while allowing the community to use their apps of choice.

      • zalgotextEnglish
        201·
        11 months ago

        Java has been around for decades longer than Rust, comparing total code numbers doesn’t tell the whole story

      • kameecoding@lemmy.worldEnglish
        102·
        11 months ago

        That’s not the whole story, most of the Java code that exists is proprietary, java is undoubtedly #1

        • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.worldEnglish
          75·
          11 months ago

          You actually think there’s more Java code than JavaScript? Basically every website in the world feels the need to use JS nowadays.

          • kameecoding@lemmy.worldEnglish
            45·
            11 months ago

            obviously I wasn’t counting JS because by sheer volume, HTML+CSS+JS will outnumber everything because it’s the only combo for the browser.

            but if you restrict it as JS for Backend, then obviously it’s not even close to Java.

            • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.worldEnglish
              32·
              11 months ago

              If you can write off JS because “you have to use it because it’s the internet” then I can write off Java because “you have to use it for billions of 20 year old legacy applications”.

              • kameecoding@lemmy.worldEnglish
                52·
                11 months ago

                I am not writing it off, I am saying it has no competition in the browser… therefore irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

                and btw, even in the link https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/pull_requests/2023/4 Javascript is not first, Python is, over Java.

                but once again, you would actually have to look for the backed JS applications, you are not choosing java over JS for the web, at best you would choose JSF and that still uses javascript.

        • Blaze@discuss.onlineEnglish
          5·
          11 months ago

          If only… More seriously, I want Lemmy/Kbin/Sublinks to succeed, and the development rhythm of Lemmy made me perplex for a while.

          A new option with a more popular language could address this.

        • Archer@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          11 months ago

          Check the back of every dollar for an Oracle database support contract, that’s how they get you!

    • cum@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      1411·
      11 months ago

      I think the people who say this and think Rust is the second coming of Jesus, just don’t code. You choose the right language that’s needed for the job. Server stuff like this is Java’s bread and butter. As amazing as Rust is, it has proven to not be a great choice for Lemmy’s development.

      • hansl@lemmy.worldEnglish
        153·
        11 months ago

        I’m curious why you say Rust “ has proven “ to not be a great choice. There is a lack of Rust programmers, but its been the fastest growing community on GitHub for multiple years now, and has proven to be viable at all level of the stack.

        Full disclaimer: I code and work in Rust daily on the backend and frontend.

        • Blaze@discuss.onlineEnglish
          6·
          11 months ago

          Full disclaimer: I code and work in Rust daily on the backend and frontend.

          Would you and your colleagues be interested in contributing to Lemmy’s codebase? I’m genuinely asking, I’m still surprised by the low number of contributors for a project that has 40k active monthly users

          • hansl@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            11 months ago

            I barely have time to contribute to fix bugs in the dependencies I use. If I had more time for OSS contributions I might, but I’m not in my 20s anymore and when I’m not at work I’m taking care of my family.

            My colleagues and friends are free to do as they please.

            • Blaze@discuss.onlineEnglish
              3·
              11 months ago

              I guess that’s the same for most of the userbase. Which is probably why switching to a more spread language could increase the number of contributors.

        • kattenluik@feddit.nlEnglish
          52·
          11 months ago

          Not to mention a lot of massive companies also use it at every part of the stack, Rust is good at it all and it is beautifully and perfectly suited for tasks like these.

      • deur@feddit.nlEnglish
        74·
        11 months ago

        It certainly sounds more likely that you “just don’t code”.