Snip Snap: Days after outlets said that Mozilla Firefox had no plans to overhaul on tablets, it seems like a redesign is actually in the works
    • It's A Faaaahhkeah!@lemmus.orgEnglish
      171·
      10 months ago

      I bet this is to do with apple fucking them around with the WebKit stuff and google being google to them, might as well give another burl at a mobile os.

    • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
      3·
      10 months ago

      Will you pay the core tech fee that Apple charges for all installs of apps that use the new terms? For something like that Firefox it can easily be hundreds of thousands of euros each month.

  • reddig33@lemmy.world
    216·
    10 months ago

    Oh? On another thread I was told Mozilla was a poor nonprofit that doesn’t have the resources to work on any additional browser builds. 😆

    • sugar_in_your_tea
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      10 months ago

      They’re not poor, they just put their money into non-browser activities AFAIK. I think that’s dumb, but as long as they make a high quality browser, I’m not too worried.

      • ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        If you look at the other browser companies there’s only two.

        Apple and Google. Most browsers are based on chrome with very minimal UI changes. The actual browser is chrome.

        These are two of the biggest tech companies, that work across a broad range of tech domains. If Mozilla is going to be able to stand up against them, then they too need a broad base. This broad base would be multiple revenue streams, large amount of tech patents, technology research, technology standard participation etc. These all help keep Firefox open and competitive. This is important to stop Google dominating and defining web standards, much like internet explorer did in the past.

        The big difference is internet explorer was left to stagnant. Chrome will continue to develop but it will develop into a privacy nightmare that corners internet commerce. The only thing standing in it’s way are Firefox and safari.

        • sugar_in_your_tea
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          10 months ago

          internet explorer was left to stagnant

          And Opera abandoned their engine.

          Mozilla… broad base

          The issue is that Mozilla’s broadness doesn’t improve its revenue steam, it just spreads money around. They do a ton of outreach programs, research, etc, but none of those result in revenue. Most of its revenue is from Google search, and Google only pays for that to keep Firefox around as a competitor so they don’t get hit with antitrust. Google wants Firefox to exist, but to always be slightly inferior so people prefer Chrome.

          I think Mozilla needs reliable revenue streams, for example:

          • they finally integrated their VPN with container tabs, but they don’t advertise it much
          • their password management doesn’t work on mobile apps - perhaps integrate with something like Bitwarden and charge for the full experience - I pay for Bitwarden, and would consider using Mozilla cobranded instead if it integrated with Firefox
          • cobranded secure email like ProtonMail, with features built in to Firefox (would be nice to manage PGP keys for secure SM messages and whatnot)
          • cobranded payment service, like privacy.com or similar, integrated with Firefox’s credit card remembering system
          • ad-replacement like Brave, but actually share profits with sites - base suggestions on local browsing history, have users pay with a bucket-like system, and provide sites with statistics; then go hard on privacy-respecting tracker blocking

          And so on. Basically, put together a lot of privacy-respecting services and charge for each one. That way users are funding Firefox’s development, not an ad company.