No hate for the middle class. I can’t help but enjoy the irony of people who thought they had solidarity with capital talking like Ned Ludd all of a sudden.

    • PrettyLights@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      You ignored the fact that myself and many others were working remote many years ago. Even using the old project middleman websites would have made more than minimum wage.

      Why was moving impossible? Programming is full of foreign nationals who left their family, culture, languages, etc to try and make a better life for themselves but we can’t move to a different city and try?

      Decades of UX Design experience, near minimum wage…

      Victim Mentality

        • PrettyLights@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          First it was “decades of experience” now it’s “maybe 11 years” those are big differences.

          I never mentioned silicon valley or VC bubbles, no one can predict the future. But if someone with decades of experience as you put it was making nearly minimum wage, they should have at least tried commuting or moving to their nearest Metropolitan area. “We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!”

            • PrettyLights@lemmy.world
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              10 months ago

              You may have been confused or I may have mistyped. I don’t know this person’s salary, but I know mine. I was paid minimum wage, and only ever got a $0.50 / hour raise.

              I’m not confused, you wrote the following:

              There’s FAANG and then there’s everyone else. Some jobs can be pretty bad in terms of pay. That first job also had a seasoned professional graphic designer with multiple decades of experience and she wasn’t making much more than I was.

              You claimed to know at least an approximation of their salary with decades of experience, which was not much more than yours was, at minimum wage + $0.50. That’s ridiculous if true. Even if they only had 11 actual years of web experience + the other years in other related design pre-internet.

              You keep changing your history and points to fit your narrative. I understand anonymizing things but you’re making specific claims then saying you don’t know when called out.

                • PrettyLights@lemmy.world
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                  10 months ago

                  Salary numbers may have been mentioned but I can’t remember.

                  Then why say this at the start of your comment thread?

                  There’s FAANG and then there’s everyone else. Some jobs can be pretty bad in terms of pay. That first job also had a seasoned professional graphic designer with multiple decades of experience and she wasn’t making much more than I was.

                  Either you knew their rough salary, or can’t remember. Which was it?

                  What I do remember is that they had another job at the time teaching web design

                  I know some people making six figures with second jobs, especially if they’re teaching in their field or live in a high COL area. It doesn’t mean they make “minimum wage” but maybe they live paycheck to paycheck. Those are very, very different.