ML aren’t communist. Communist dislike them as well. I absolutely understand people not wanting to deal with ML though. They’re often just as bad as hard core capitalists. But don’t blame communists just because others missuse the noun, while not bothering with the actual ideology. Actual communists are pretty chill and generally your friend.
Not at all. Any honest ML, and there are some will tell you the same. Leninism is not communism. The point of leninism was to try to short cut the evolution phase Marx spoke of, with revolution. That they could replace their feudal oppressors by emulating them. Mistakenly thinking that they could ultimately be any more benevolent than their previous rulers. They could not. Every time they tried, the surrounding culture became brutally, socially, oppressive. Jailing and slaughtering those that dissented.
It’s the dishonest ML that pull the no true Scotsman shit. Claiming everyone that isn’t them is not communist and somehow to the right. Of their oppressive authoritarian governments. That struggle to be even nominally left in any significant way. Completely ignoring the existence of anarcho communists and libertarian socialist. I mean for fucks sake the country most of the ML champion and praise these days is China. Which is state capitalist. Hardly communist.
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ML aren’t communist. Communist dislike them as well. I absolutely understand people not wanting to deal with ML though. They’re often just as bad as hard core capitalists. But don’t blame communists just because others missuse the noun, while not bothering with the actual ideology. Actual communists are pretty chill and generally your friend.
At some point you hit the no true Scotsman fallacy though
Not at all. Any honest ML, and there are some will tell you the same. Leninism is not communism. The point of leninism was to try to short cut the evolution phase Marx spoke of, with revolution. That they could replace their feudal oppressors by emulating them. Mistakenly thinking that they could ultimately be any more benevolent than their previous rulers. They could not. Every time they tried, the surrounding culture became brutally, socially, oppressive. Jailing and slaughtering those that dissented.
It’s the dishonest ML that pull the no true Scotsman shit. Claiming everyone that isn’t them is not communist and somehow to the right. Of their oppressive authoritarian governments. That struggle to be even nominally left in any significant way. Completely ignoring the existence of anarcho communists and libertarian socialist. I mean for fucks sake the country most of the ML champion and praise these days is China. Which is state capitalist. Hardly communist.
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