• squiblet@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    If I modified a rifle to be full auto, that would be a crime in most countries. That would not, however, mean I didn’t own the rifle.

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      10 months ago

      When you hurt profits it’s just like murder? Is that what your saying?

      • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        It’s worse in many western jurisdictions. People are plentiful and cheap, rich billionaires are rare and must be protected. 🤢

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        10 months ago

        Uh, no. It’s a statement about the ability to modify property and laws relating to that. Not sure who brought up murder.

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          10 months ago

          It’s a statement comparing 2 objects that are forbidden to modify. Guns are forbidden due to their ability to kill even more people through modification, video game systems are forbidden due to their ability to hurt company profits through piracy.

          People are pointing out the huge moral difference between the bases for those two similar rules, and how one cannot compare them fairly as being equivalent unless they also believe those bases are equivalent.

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            10 months ago

            It’s not illegal to modify a gun, it’s illegal to modify a gun into a gun that meets certain criteria to then become illegal. The crime isn’t modification of the gun, the crime is the possession of a (now) illegal gun.

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              10 months ago

              So it’s… forbidden to modify it into something that kills even more people. There’s a reason I didn’t use the word “illegal.”

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      10 months ago

      You would lose ownership the moment they found out about it. I’m not really sure I understand your point and it comes off as a huge false comparison. There is a difference between the laws that are there to protect the general population and the ones meant to protect corporate profits.

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      10 months ago

      No, in your case the crime isn’t the fact that you modified the rifle, the crime is that you modified it into an illegal version of the rifle. The crime is possession of a full auto rifle.

      If I take a rifle that was setup for one caliber and modify it so it can shoot a different caliber, that’s not illegal.

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        10 months ago

        Nobody cares if you have a rifle that fires a different caliber. Selling full auto mod kits is illegal though.

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      10 months ago

      Perhaps rifles should not be owned by individuals then.