Linux needs to grow. Stop telling people it’s ‘tech-y’ or acting like you’re more advanced for using it, you are scaring away people. Linux Mint can be used by a senile person perfectly.
Explain shortly the benefits, ‘faster, more secure, easier to use, main choices of professionals and free’. Ask questions that let you know if they need to dual boot, ‘do you use Adobe, anti-cheat games, or Microsoft Office’, ‘how new is your computer’, ‘do you use a Mac’.
And most importantly, offer to help them install.
They don’t understand the concept of distros, just suggest Linux Mint LTS Cinnamon unless they’re curious.
That’s it, spread Linux to as many people as possible. The larger the marketshare, the better support we ALL get. We can fight enshittification. Take the time to spread it but don’t force it on anyone.
AND STOP SCARING PEOPLE AWAY. Linux has no advertising money, it’s up to us.
Offer family members or friends your help or copy and paste the below
how to install linux: 1) copy down your windows product key 2) backup your files to a harddrive 3) install the linux mint cinnamon iso from the linux mint website 4) use etcher (download from its website) to put the iso on a usb flash drive 5) go into bios 6) boot from the usb 7) erase the storage and install 8) press update all in the update manager 9) celebrate. it takes 15 minutes.
edit: LET ME RE-STATE, DO NOT FORCE IT ON ANYONE.
and if someone is at the level of ignorance (not in a derogatory fashion) that they dont know what a file even is genuinely dont bother unless theyre your parents cause youll be tech support for their ‘how do i install the internet’ questions.
Wanting people to know the instruments they’re using ≠ elitism
Everyone should be able to use Linux but that ain’t happening if you don’t teach them the basics of how to use a computer.
Saying it’s unacceptable that someone uses a tool without having interest in knowing the way it works outside of their limited usage fucking is elitism though!
I sure hope you know how to change the transmission in your car or have the tools to replace the bottom bracket on your bike or that you know how to replace an intake valve on your washing machine because it’s unacceptable for your to own these things and used them if you don’t! Heck, you must live somewhere, do you know how to build a house and maintain everything that can go wrong with one?
BSA ITA French/Swiss PF30 octa/isis I do them all.
I switched gearbox and driveshaft on a heavy van stuck on 20’ incline 5m away from a wall. Early 70s Dodge. Scary getting under there.
I use runit and/or s6 as init and service supevisor, no logind, no dbus, just a window manager. I have one disguised as MSwin, my friend hasn’t noticed in 7y it is not MSw. She says it is as good now as it was the day I installed it.
@Kecessa @EuroNutellaMan
Ok and you pinky swear that you never use anything that you don’t know how it works and couldn’t care less?
And you expect everyone to act the same way or you can accept that people have other things to do? I wouldn’t blame a carpenter for not caring to know how their computer works if all the do is go on the internet, I would still want them to build my house before an IT that has an interest in home renovations!
I’m not saying people should understand the inner workings. I’m saying they should understand how to use it or at least want to learn. I’m talking copy-pasting files, navigating folders, reading instructions, that sort of stuff. Read my comments before assuming my argument.
In your analogy it would be knowing how to use the steering wheel and the brakes and the basic rules of how to drive, and I sure as shit hope you know how to use them before you’re allowed into the streets in your car.
It’s like giving a book to a person who doesn’t know how to read and refuses to learn how to read. They don’t want to read, then they probably shouldn’t have a book. They need the book for whatever reason? Then they must be taught how to read.
But they know how to use it in accordance with their needs, you’re just mad that they don’t use it to do the shit that you feel is adequate, that’s elitist as fuck.
Until they have to ask me or tech support how to run something as administrator when they need to do something different for whatever reason. I worked with people in a lab, we do research on a lot of environmental and biological stuff, we sometimes use some quite advanced software, yet some of these people struggle with the most basic operations and they give up as soon as something isn’t working, with the logic “I can’t understand this so why bother”. I’m talking even the installation (on windows) of new programs. And these people have to use WSL to run terminal commands for software made specifically for Linux, you’d expect them to at least understand a bit of the basics, but nope, it’s seen as normal and/or a funny quirk to be illiterate instead of being trained on how to use a computer, at the end of my time there I managed to convert one to the Linux camp (the others want to switch when they get new computers) and he’s well on his way to become the guy who will have to help someone run a program as admin or some other silly shit, and I hope eventually more of them will become literate, but it shouldn’t have needed me or someone else being there for these people to comprehend computer basics, they should’ve been trained at the job or taught that in school.
There is no reason to not teach these people the very basics. Everyone will need to know what a file is and how to navigate folders at some point, or admin privileges, or some very basic troubleshooting, they should learn that even if maybe they’re only gonna use it twice. It is certainly more useful than knowing what drivers, buses, etc are (yes, this is what they taught us in basic IT class to people not doing IT). Otherwise, if they don’t want to learn that then a computer is likely not the tool for them.
If we want everyone to be able to use Linux or computers in general, we need everyone to learn how to use their tool. Without this you’ll get a billion phone calls for any small problems by people who don’t understand something basic, don’t want to learn or look up how to solve a problem they think is impossibly hard, and eventually these people will get angry and leave in frustration. Linux is very much an operating system that can work for everyone, even a dumbass like myself or my old grandpas and grandmas, but if we want people who use windows/mac to switch to it we first need to teach them the basics. It is then of my opinion that the people who can’t grasp the basics of how to interact with their computer and refuse to learn (this part is important) should use something else instead altogether.
I never talked about people switching to Linux as I couldn’t care less about that (the closest of am from running Linux is owning an rpi for pihole, all 5 other computers in my house are on W11 and my interest to switch is zero because I’m computer literate enough that I know I don’t want to make my life complicated just to be a contrarian) or people that use computers for work.
If you’re angry that you have to offer support to people when you work in IT you should change field. You’re like a mechanic that’s angry they get clients to do something basic like changing wipers, either teach the person or do it for them, that’s what you’re paid for, if everyone knew how to do all the stuff you’re helping them with you would be out of a job.
I don’t work in IT, I have even said I studied in a field that has nothing to do with IT. I simply happen to know how to do basic stuff and therefore illiterate people think I’m some sort of tech genius (I am not).
IT people also won’t be out of a job if people knew how to right click something.
Well I’ve got bad news for you, training and helping people is part of my job, I teach them and help them do their daily tasks and the same people ask me the same questions over and over again.
You say “they need to know even if they’ll use it once or twice”? Well they will have forgotten when that happens because they don’t use it often enough to remember and computers aren’t something they’re interested in in the first place. The computer is their gateway to the internet, just like a car is someone’s way to get to work, the intricacies of how it works and how to do things that are unrelated to these tasks can be taught to them, they will not absorb the information.
that’s a them problem. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t teach people these skills. And I reiterate that these people should probably use something else that works better for them, not a computer then.
If you don’t mind sharing all your private data with multinational corporations and state agencies then you have no better choice than paying MS to provide you with a dummy terminal to their affiliated data-miners.
@Kecessa @EuroNutellaMan
MS paid technical support is very simple.
- Xyz doesn’t work
- Please insert install disk and reinstall windows.
- But …
- I am sorry but this is the only way we can insure a good working system
@Kecessa @EuroNutellaMan
How many times do you see someone with a flat tire, keep driving at normal speed, shreds of tire falling of and rim turning to an ioctagonal dish, so they can get to a tire shop?
Those are all MS faithful users.
@EuroNutellaMan @Kecessa