• mellowheat@suppo.fi
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    9 months ago

    NATO is a hostile military alliance formed for the sole purpose of destroying the Soviet Union. It did not go away when that purpose was achieved

    Somehow it doesn’t currently seem like it was achieved.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      34
      ·
      9 months ago

      If you think the Russian Federation and the USSR are remotely comparable, you’re smoking crack. NATO won, and the depraved, neoliberal regime it replaced the USSR with is its own God damned fault.

      • mellowheat@suppo.fi
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        NATO won, and the depraved, neoliberal regime it replaced the USSR with is its own God damned fault.

        I don’t think USSR became what anyone in the west wanted it to become. It’s nowhere near neoliberal, for one, more like a mafia state.

        If you think the Russian Federation and the USSR are remotely comparable

        Oh no, I don’t. The Russian Federation is much worse. Just saying that we didn’t really “destroy” them in the same way as, for instance, Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan was destroyed in WW2.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          30
          ·
          9 months ago

          I don’t think USSR became what anyone in the west wanted it to become.

          Who is Yeltsin?

          It’s nowhere near neoliberal, for one, more like a mafia state.

          Technically it quickly became something closer to classically liberal rather than neoliberal (as the imperial core shunned it) but to claim that liberalism is opposed to mafiosi is hilarious, it has never existed without them. It’s like saying liberalism is opposed to slavery, there is some vacuous sense in which you could use sophistry to push that angle, but when you look at real, historic manifestations of liberal states, they are heavily economically reliant on various forms of slavery, whether domestic or via their dogs in the third world.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      28
      ·
      9 months ago

      Lmao what?

      What nations are allowed to have their own interests, and act to secure those interests? Is that something only for the U.S. and (when the U.S. allows it) its allies? Or is it possible that some countries have legitimate interests that conflict with the U.S.?