• GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
      883·
      10 months ago

      It’s not at all. The Muslim man is fine using non Muslim sex workers, because he views non Muslims as lesser, and dirty.

      Upon learning the woman was Muslim he called out that she was defiling herself, by acting like the lesser humans.

      Similarly, he probably felt bad about himself because his use of a sex worker who was Muslim was more objectionable than if he found a non Muslim sex worker.

      It’s internally consistent but absolutely shitty.

  • Granite@kbin.social
    78·
    10 months ago

    So by this logic, it’s totally fine to “defile” someone who isn’t Muslim? Wtf.

    • Quacksalber
      561·
      10 months ago

      It’s just that the man when buying sex is not (as much) sinning, but the woman who allows him to buy sex is very much sinning.

    • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
      31·
      10 months ago

      Absolutely. Like medieval Christians couldn’t lend money to each other with interest, so they just found a Jewish person, and used them as an intermediary as they could lend/owe with interest to non Christians just fine lol

      And my medieval example is completely topical cause these religions have hardly advanced since then.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      311·
      10 months ago

      There’s a lot of this in Abrahamic scripture. The nice treatment of slaves, for instance, only applies to fellow Israelites who sell themselves into servitude. Non-Israelites can be bought, sold, kept forever, bred (and their kids are slaves too), and even killed with impunity.

      Biblical scholar Dan McClellan notes that people from every age have to negotiate with sacred texts to affirm the ethos of their time and explain away those parts that don’t work anymore. And this is true with all religions whether Jewish, Hellenic, Wotanic, Shinto or whatever.

      So yes, in Islam, sex work is haram until it isn’t.

      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
        21·
        10 months ago

        I remember when Dan said that yelling at the podcast “hey you don’t have to do anything. Just admit the texts are garbage and there is no god.”

        It is so so much easier knowing that I will never have to explain away slavery again.

    • Shenanigore@lemm.ee
      132·
      10 months ago

      That’s literally in their book, it’s not even rape. let alone wrong at all, if the victim isn’t Muslim, with a small exception for married women regardless of faith.

    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
      61·
      10 months ago

      Well if course. The other tribes are humans but not people. This is pretty freaken universal for conservatives everywhere.

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
    313·
    10 months ago

    nah from what i read their prophet started out declaring 3 women to be the right legit amount and when getting older he increased the number. like the pervert that guy was, his followers now are.

      • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
        14·
        10 months ago

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygyny_in_Islam

        If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
— Qur'an, Sura 4 (An-Nisa), Ayah 3[1]

        so you start out with 2, 3 or 4 and then proceed to have at least 9 wives.

        • optissima@lemmy.world
          41·
          10 months ago

          How does this indicate that he changed it as he aged?

          Reading through the page…

          Noteworthy was the fact that it was customary for men to marry women without limit, a practice that ended with the advent of the Qur’an and its divine revelation.

          So it increased as he aged but it was bigger before?

  • niktemadur@lemmy.world
    21·
    10 months ago

    “Prostitutes are going to hell anyway, so might as well fuck 'em.”

    Also, “I’m still pure, I’m not the one who’s female while selling my trade.” this is how the goddamned Middle Ages remain among us. Lazy mindless hypocrisy.
    Both monetizing their bodies, yet somehow this asshole is above it all, sees it fit to preach at the end, probably drove off with a smug superiority on one hand, on the other that inescapable self-hatred bubbling mighty close to the surface, post-orgasm. They know there’s something wrong, and they zeroed in on the wrong thing while yelling “Mary had a little lamb little lamb little lamb”.

    It’s like in that John Waters film Pecker, when some kid gets caught with no pants at a gay bar - “Mom, I’m not queer! Queers blow me! I’m still straight!”

  • nifty@lemmy.world
    246·
    10 months ago

    This hypocrisy is not an Islam or Muslim issue or unique to this religion. Racists like pretending otherwise, and then justifying genocide in Palestine.

    • deaf_fish@lemm.ee
      252·
      10 months ago

      First sentence: 10/10, this comment is going someplace good.

      Second Sentence: how did we get to Palestine? What happened?

    • kase@lemmy.world
      4·
      10 months ago

      Yes. As it would turn out, they both had a punishment hell kink, so this exchange only got them more excited ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)