• vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 months ago

    Nobody means “universal direct democracy” when they say “democracy”. Not the ancient Athenians, not the Swiss, nobody.

    This is a very disingenuous talking point.

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      9 months ago

      It’s not a talking point. Seems quite a few Americans don’t know what our actual form of government is called. Accuracy counts.

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        9 months ago

        Words mean what the people using them agree that they mean.

        You are holding a minority position here. It would seem you do not know what your form of government is called.

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          9 months ago

          Minority view or not, it’s correct. Just because it’s a majority doesn’t make it correct.

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            Well, you are correct by a minority. But incorrect by the majority.

            Its called perspective and language. Study papers need to define the word sometimes from the ground up so the paper becomes understandable.

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              9 months ago

              Guess it depends on what the definition of “is” is. Hate it all you want, I’m right.

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                I guess your ego to be right is more worth than valuable conversations where people actually understand each other by being on similar wavelengths.

                Congratulation. You are right. But I dont know where.

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                  democracy /dĭ-mŏk′rə-sē/ noun

                  Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives. 
                  

                  A political or social unit that has such a government.

                  The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.

                  Majority rule.

                  The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.

                  Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained and directly exercised by the people.

                  Government by popular representation; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people

                  Collectively, the people, regarded as the source of government.

                  The principles and policy of the Democratic party, so called.

                  republic /rĭ-pŭb′lĭk/ noun

                  A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president.
                  

                  A nation that has such a political order.

                  A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.

                  A specific republican government of a nation. “the Fourth Republic of France.”

                  An autonomous or partially autonomous political and territorial unit belonging to a sovereign federation. (Read:federation of states)

                  A group of people working as equals in the same sphere or field. “the republic of letters.”

                  I’m right, right here.