Run, you fucking piece of shit. Go go go gogogogogogog!

My niece told her grandmother about her fear of getting murdered at school. Feel that fear, asshole.

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    It is easy to make, the hard part is the TEN YEARS IN A FEDERAL PENITENTIARY. I hate to all caps, but it was being missed and you were being rude about you having missed that.

    What laws specifically do you think we should implement. It really isn’t as difficult of a question as you make it out to be.

    I’m not asking “how we reduced full auto,” because not only are there more SOTs now than there were in the years following the ban, illegal use/ownership is also now becoming more widespread. This is mostly due to how easy it is now to spread information, however “I’m not asking how we reduced…” because it is increasing, albeit currently lower than '86, then again all violent crime has been on a downswing since 1993. The “laws worked” because the internet was much less prevalent and .stl wasn’t yet a filetype, give it some time.

    And now not even mass shooters use full-auto guns?

    Isn’t it just awful how the school shooters and gangbangers all have full-auto Uzis like in 80s action films, since laws about that did absolutely fucking nothing to make those objects harder to get?

    Do you have object permanence?

    I’ll just “right-back-atcha” here.

    Gangbangers are THE people using illegal aliexpress glock switches that are showing up at crime scenes. Who did you think was using them, family annihilators? I like how you tightened it to mass shooters too, and btw they have used them before as well, admittedly more rarely than semi, but if we’re being sticklers…

    Scoff as hard as you like about how any pickle-brained moron can manufacture the fiddly widget that makes the bang switch go bang bang bang.

    Yes, even you could do it.

    Only occasional maniacs will bother.

    Shame that occasional maniacs are the people killing people as well.

    Furthermore more non-maniacs would do it if it didn’t get you a 10 WHOLE ASS YEAR FEDERAL PRISON SENTENCE FOR MANUFACTURING OR POSSESSING A MACHINE GUN MANUFACTURED POST 1986 WITHOUT AN SOT, which MURDERERS WHO ARE KILLING PEOPLE WHICH CAN GET THEM A WHOLE ASS SENTENCE OF TWENTY-FIVE YEARS TO LIFE IN PRISON aren’t concerned about. If it is unclear, 25>10.

    Buyback programs don’t have to be mandatory,

    They do here. They have an extremely low success rate, they usually offer less than what the gun is worth by far (like $200 for a $1200+ gun). Typically what happens is you get a few dead-grandpa guns left in an attic, and then some joker 3d prints a bunch of liberators (or in one case a bunch of DIASs because they counted for more, actually, lol) and sells those for a huge profit they use to fund other gun purchases. American gun owners are simply not interested in buybacks. The black market meanwhile (assuming we ban all guns) now has a foothold with illegal manufacture which will happen, someone also needs a couple hundered extra bucks and doesn’t mind using his now-illegal skills to arm his GD or Folk friends (hell with the ghost guns increasing it’s likely this already happens, I doubt every one of those people printed their own, but there’s no real way to catch them beyond making a controlled buy). Prices may go up, but typically illegally sold guns right now are “hot” and actually cheaper than in store. I could get you a glock 19 for $500 at a store, or $150 from a guy I know who also sells heroin if you want any of that while I’m there. Problem is though if you get the $150 one and a cop runs the serial, you’ll also be doing time in prison. Again, for you and me, prison is a deterrent. For a murderer? That extra couple years for a stolen gun charge is nothing when you’re already risking 25 to life. Most people involved in violent crime also being involved in drugs and gangs, the price increase is negligable even if it does happen, drug dealers usually have a lot of cash.

    Millions of people could keep their secret guns…

    And the only people who could use them would be criminals (who would all keep their guns) because self defense with an illegal item is illegal. That sounds like a plan, for sure. Not a good plan by any stretch of the imagination, but a plan nonetheless.

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      ‘It’s illegal!’ We’re already talking about murderers. ‘Some do use them!’ Not really, you already smugly asserted it’s rare. ‘Well it’s going up!’ Hey, great reason to reduce firearms where a widget makes it worse.

      Which could be done with any of several examples I already explained. Do you speak English? Or are you just looking for keywords to yell about?

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        The thing is you seem to think making something illegal has any effect when they can be and are being easily made and bought illegally. Furthermore you seem to think the 600,000,000 guns in 50% of the population’s hands with no registry and a culture of reluctance to give them up will simply disappear. It’s naive at best.

        You clearly speak “stupid asshole” maybe you should try english.

        I love btw how I make point after point and you retort with “nuh uh doody head.” Really supporting your argument there.

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            In this context? It means “people are less able to use them for self defense but criminals, who do not care about said laws, can still use them for crime.”

            The cat is out of the bag man. Sure we can prevent further legal sales, but there’s already too many and too much knowledge to stop what you’re trying to stop with that. Much more effective to go after the root causes of said violence rather than focus on some magical “less guns with no explanation how” solution.

            Furthermore, black women are the fastest growing group of gun owners, followed by all women, followed by the gays (I love how ominous that sounds lol “the gays! Dun dun duunnnn!”). Digressions aside, preventing new legal sales only serves to cement the fact that conservatives have all the legal ones. Idk why, but “make sure the rich and conservatives have more guns than the fastest growing groups” sounds like it may not be the best idea to me.

            But of course, “nuh uh doody head.” Yes sure.

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              No, insult-spamming hypocrite, it means the big numbers you keep throwing around to say ‘there’s too many guns for laws to work!’ gradually stop being an excuse. Like, if there were only one hundred million guns in this country, the black market would be less able to provide firearms to murderous assholes.

              But you have to keep pretending I mean instantly solving all problems, or you can’t stick to your script.

              Same as pretending “here’s a few ways this could happen” means “no explanation how.”

              And childish name-calling as pitifully bare projection. You’re not even listening to yourself.

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                No u, you wanna devolve it we can devolve it. I’m flexible. You wanna have a real, respectable conversation we can do that but you can’t be mad when I insult you back.

                SO WHAT IS YOUR EXACT PLAN? Still waiting. Oh you have none? Surprise looks like I’m right.

                Noooo uuuuuuu.

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                  You’re still waiting because you’re not listening. I named three possibilities. For some reason, you think three is less than one. You responded to one of them… and it still didn’t change your script. You’re still expectantly waggling that hoop when I’m on the other side of it.

                  You have not proven yourself capable of the respectable conversation you imagine you can offer. The world’s most blatant sarcasm sailed clean over your head. Appealing to your gun-guy knowledge was treated as a flub. Evidently it’s not an ESL thing, or issues communicating with the neurotypical, because here you are posturing and name-calling as hard as you can manage. You really are just bad at this.

                  Meanwhile, there’s basically every other country in the world that does things differently, and your insistence that “fewer guns” is an impossible self-contradiction doesn’t seem to bother them. Like, even if it’s only dastardly moustache-twirling criminals with guns, there’s fewer of them, and they shoot fewer people.

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                    Alright so then I clearly missed it then, what are your three ways? Surely the next reply will include them.

                    Ya mama.

                    neurotypical

                    OH ableism. Cute. That’s a good look that reflects positively on your “three” unsaid pieces of comprehensive legislature.

                    MEANWHILE AT THE HALL OF JUSTICE

                    bruh I’m not even reading this shit anymore. Just fuck off while you’re behind if you don’t want to be an insufferable prick.