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    This meme is classism and always has been. Hating the poor for being too depressed to work for pennies in hellish conditions while in agony due to various debilitating age problems is hateful shit. It is just used as a socially acceptable method for people to do hatred for the poor while simultaneously spreading the virtue of working for fuck all.

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      my guy person its a movie based on a childrens book

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        And?

        • Aging was even worse back then than it is now. Modern medicine as we know it today basically didn’t exist.

        • The story has a lot of magical realism going on. Joe’s ability to get up and go to the factory with charlie is half miracle, half Joe making an extraordinary effort.

        • The whole thing is just incredibly shitty towards disabled people

        It’s a mean spirited meme, and it also gives me the vibes of “this person isn’t depressed because I saw them smile once”.

        And I’m not a fucking guy.

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          why didnt he make an ‘extraordinary effort’ when his family was in poverty? just bc hes on charlies side doesnt mean hes a good person. remember he told charlie to steal fizzy lifting drinks!

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            “Why don’t disabled people just make an extraordinary effort every day? If he can get out of bed for his grandson for one day then clearly he can always do it!”

            This is you, you’re the person that tells people in wheelchairs with limited mobility that they’re faking it because sometimes they can walk a bit and sometimes they can’t. The reality of disability is more complicated than just being completely incapacitated all the time. There are good days and there are bad days.

            Not to mention that the point here is that it’s literally a miracle. You people accept magical flying elevators and people inflating into beach balls as miraculous but conveniently forget that when it comes to shaming the poor or disabled for managing to get out of bed for one single day.

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                You wouldn’t say the same thing if it were a meme that’s harmful to lgbt people. Apparently it’s ok if it’s the poor or disabled though?

                Do some self crit for once.

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          Never saw the grandpa joe hate meme from this angle and it does really make sense. Old people can still work a bit but not long and it just make their health worse the more they force themselves doing it. My dad can’t even walk that much anymore and he’s only in his 60s and yet he almost became a professional football player when he was young.

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            People with disabilities and chronic illnesses are often accused of faking their condition. It’s a very common experience for a person with a chronic illness to have a good day where their symptoms are manageable, get some errands or something done, and then have people around them use it as a weapon against them “Oh you were able to walk just fine yesterday, what’s your excuse now?”. The idea that someone’s level of ability might fluctuate over time, that symptoms might be better one day and worse the next, just doesn’t occur to a lot of able bodied people. And the Calvinist/Chud around “all poor people are welfare queens and poverty and illness are a sign god hates you” really reinforces and supports that view within the culture. It’s real bad for a lot of disabled people.

            This mockery of Joe reflects that - Joe was able to get out of bed for one day to help his grandson, so obviously he must be a lazy shirker who is just pretending to disability. It’s 1:1 with the accusations disabled people face constantly.

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        I don’t find hateful and mean spirited “jokes” very funny.

        And can you people stop misgendering me?