• smegforbrains@lemmy.ml
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          9 months ago

          Ad hominem again. This is no way to have a constructive discussion. Please use arguments to support your position and don’t attack the opposition personally.

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                I’ve already explained my argument to you repeatedly in multiple comments as have other people. Unfortunately, you’ve amply demonstrated lack of basic reading comprehension required to understand and respond to such arguments. Therefore there is no need to repeat these arguments. If you feel personally attacked when people point that out to you, that’s entirely your problem.

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                  9 months ago

                  You’re still just attacking me personally, rather than engaging in discussion with me and replying to my arguments with your own views and arguments.

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                    9 months ago

                    I tried engaging with you in discussion and quickly realized that it’s pointless. Your “arguments” have been repeatedly addressed by me as well as multiple other people. You just keep regurgitating the same talking points you’ve memorized like a broken record.

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            You don’t understand what ad hominem means. Ad hominem isn’t just when you insult someone. Ad hominem is when you attempt to logically refute a point by using the speaker’s character as a source of evidence.

            Ad hominem example:

            My opponent argues that 2+2=7. He always got F’s in math, therefore this must be wrong.

            No ad hominem, just insulting:

            My opponent argues that 2+2=7. We can prove this is wrong by plugging into a calculator. Also, an irrelevant detail, he is stupid and bad at math.

            My comment could not have made any logical fallacy because I made no attempt at logic or making an argument. All I intended was an insult. Again, username checks out.

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              9 months ago

              I dont think that’s right. Here’s a helpful definition:

              The definition of ‘ad hominem’

              In Latin, ‘ad hominem’ means “against the person.” In an ad hominem argument, the person attacks the source of the argument rather than the argument itself. In other words, when the argument makes personal attacks rather than dealing with the subject at hand, it’s ad hominem.

              Source: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365-life-hacks/writing/what-does-ad-hominem-mean

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                Again, I made no attempt at making an argument, so my statement could not be an ad hominem argument.

                When someone made fun of you in school, did you say “well, akshually, that’s ad hominem ☝️🤓”

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                  9 months ago

                  I don’t think we should behave as if we are school kids. I think we should behave like grown ups and respect each other, while discussing these matters.

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                    Now, see, that’s a straw man argument, because I didn’t say we should behave like school kids, I just used a tangential example involving school kids.