• ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi
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    There’s no treason in sabotaging an unjust war

    The treason was starting the war. In the first place

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      10 months ago

      Agreed that the US should not have started this by backing the 2014 fascist coup.

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        10 months ago

        It’s not worth even arguing with people like you that support colonialism and empire. I’m just registering this here that people can see straight through your shitty, projecting delusions.

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          that support colonialism and empire

          I don’t support the US though?

          Did this war not start because the US backed the 2014 fascist coup? And the subsequent killing of ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine like Donbas and Crimea for resisting?

          These were the results of the 2010 elections.

          Eastern Ukrainians don’t support the current fascist gov, and even welcomed the Russian army as liberators in 2022.

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            No.

            The war started because Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and the international community didn’t stand up to Russia then. They appeased Russia.

            Then again in 2022 Russia invaded Ukraine.

            Your argument is like saying that the soviets helped the nazis liberate Poland from the oppressive polish government.

            Also you’re clearly on the wrong side of history OR you’re deliberately arguing in bad faith and trying to spread misinformation.

            Russia will be a notable afterthought in the history of the world, but ultimately will be remembered as a failed bully state that could only destroy the dregs of the empires or nations that came before it. Which is sad because I don’t think most of the people belong being lumped in with people like you, but it is what it is.

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            10 months ago

            welcomed as liberators

            Oof. Not sure if English is your first language, comrade, but you should be aware that this direct quote, “we will be welcomed as liberators” was used as justification for the invasion of Iraq by Cheney, and has such a negative connotation that it is now only used sarcastically.

            Saying it evokes the strong memory of it being a bullshit statement to justify doing something awful. And, based on what you’re saying… that assessment rings true.

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              The title of the article itself uses that phrase so not much I can do about that.

              It’s detailed and lists tons of sources and images. And I can indeed see this happening based on the shit the post-2014 puppet gov had been doing to eastern Ukrainians.