• ShepherdPie@midwest.social
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    9 months ago

    If Biden can’t beat a fascist demagogue and petty tyrant and Trump ends up winning, then I’d argue it’s your fault for backing a losing candidate over someone who actually might have actually defeated Trump. The blame would fall squarely on your shoulders.

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      9 months ago

      The blame will fall squarely on the voters who stood idly by navel-gazing while a fascist took power.

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        9 months ago

        Oh, not the party loyalists like yourself who would rather back a losing candidate than allow a winner to run in their place?

        Have you ever stopped to consider how someone could find a bloated, orange maniac more appealing than the guy you’re trying to shame everyone into voting for and what that says about your political views?

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          9 months ago

          Which person, specifically, would be better to vote for than Biden that has a reasonable chance of winning?

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            9 months ago

            Sanders would bring in the most, make him the nominee and you would keep the never trumpers, bring in some moderates, lose some moderates.

            The math comes down to would the amount of moderates/independents you lose to apathy or trump, double points for the ones who would vote trump instead of sanders since the other team gains 1 and you lose 1, compared to how many moderates/independents and how many leftists you get.

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              9 months ago

              I’d love to have Sanders, I voted for him last primary, and I’d vote for him again.

              He’s not running. You don’t win with a candidate who’s not running for election.

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                9 months ago

                Idk what to tell you friend, that sounds like something we have 9 months to fix.

                At every opportunity Biden has had he has continued to support Israel’s genocidal actions.

                He says differently, and god do I feel for people like blinken and the UN lady that has to be the face of support for things like that.

                Maybe it is the rest of humanity that is wrong and we should be supporting the deaths of innocent brown kids.

                It is the American way after all

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                  9 months ago

                  No, it’s not. You don’t sub out a candidate with someone who, nine months before the election, has no interest in running for the office. That’s a pipe dream doing nothing but distracting you from the reality that it’s going to be Biden vs. Trump, and despite how imperfect you feel Biden is, you’re going to have to vote for him, because the alternative is fascist authoritarianism.

                  Come November, Sanders will be voting for Biden. I suggest you follow his lead.

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                    9 months ago

                    Whose vote is more important to you, the people who would disagree if Biden kept supporting Israel’s genocidal actions or the people who support them?

                    You only get to pick one group.

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      9 months ago

      I’d argue it’s your fault for backing a losing candidate over someone who actually might have actually defeated Trump

      Who, exactly, is this mythical figure that could beat Trump at this point in the game? C’mon, give us a name.