• zarkanian
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    9 months ago

    Right. It’s like when conspiracy assholes cry “straw man”. They can’t explain how the argument is a straw man; they probably don’t even know what a straw man is. They just saw somebody use that phrase in a debate once.

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      9 months ago

      Their defenses work the same way: ‘he’s joking!,’ ‘he never said that!,’ and ‘that’s out of context!’ ‘he’s joking!,’ ‘he never said that!,’ and ‘that’s out of context!’ get thrown around interchangeably, despite being wildly different claims.

      They’re so sadly predictable that one might bumble through this thread and performative roll their eyes at how often they’ve heard those claims from the other side… as if the problem is saying so. Not whether saying so is correct. Judging a claim as right or wrong requires evaluating claims, and in the loyalist worldview, that is not what claims are for.