• CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    It was trumps lawyers not trump, but there are ways to make it look higher than it is.

    The average new yorker is not harmed by a drunk driver that doesnt hit anyone…

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      8 months ago

      So you don’t understand why drunk drivers are punished? Or why you would be punished for driving 100 mph in a school zone without hitting anyone? Or why you would go to jail if you shot a few rounds into a crowd without hurting anyone?

      In that case, you simply don’t understand the point of public safety laws. Fortunately, prosecutors do understand.

      To summarize: There are laws. Even if you can’t understand why they exist, you have to obey them.

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        8 months ago

        They are punished to prevent them from driving drunk in the present and the future, there is not actual harm from them being drunk and making it home save.

        If people are convicted by what could have been that is a very slippery slope.

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          8 months ago

          Exactly, and Trump is being punished to prevent him from lying on loan documents in the present and future.

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            8 months ago

            He is being punished for running for president, that should be obvious. So again, please very directly tell me how people were harmed by trump. I can tell you how they benefitted.

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              8 months ago

              I already told you. He broke a law designed to keep New Yorkers safe. That means he put New Yorkers at unnecessary risk.

              It doesn’t matter if any particular person was harmed, just like it doesn’t matter if a drunk driver actually harms someone or if a person who shoots into a crowd actually harms anyone.

              It also doesn’t matter if anyone benefited from his illegal actions. If you put on an illegal fireworks show, maybe people benefit and maybe nobody gets hurt. You get punished nevertheless.

              The law is the law. When you break it, you face punishment. End of story. Even if nobody was actually harmed, even if some people benefited.

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                  8 months ago

                  When Trump lied on his loan documents, his NY lenders assumed unnecessary risk. Along with any NY institutions that dealt with those lenders.

                  Are you suggesting that lying on loan documents is okay as long as you pay the loan back? Do you routinely lie on your credit card and mortgage applications to get a better rate?

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                    8 months ago

                    Again, in underwriting they look at the properties and make a decision on their own. And what was the risk to New Yorkers? Who exactly was defrauded by trump?

                    Is the only thing that was wrong the square footage on an apartment?