• Herbal Gamer
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      9 months ago

      Self-immolation is one of the absolute worst ways to end yourself. If he was in the army and just suicidal, he’d have way better options to do it.

    • BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      The sad fact is that mentally stable people do not burn themselves to death in protest. He got too wrapped up in current events when he should have been spending time with family and friends (and probably doctors too).

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        It’s definitely both. Lighting yourself on fire to make a point is a terrible idea. If your goal is to bring about change, killing yourself actively works against that.

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            9 months ago

            Suicide as protest is the same act as silencing yourself. That’s not protest. It’s submission.

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              Well, we are talking about him now, and millions of people have hears his message in his own words. Or he could still be alive in a sea of picketers being ignored. I don’t approve of suicide either, bit he very effectively got a lot of people to listen to him, or at least to hear him. We all should be so silent.

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                9 months ago

                I’m pretty sure the other commenter will continue to ignore this fairly obvious facet to his death.

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                For 2 weeks. And then he won’t be part of conversation until the next person does it. Then we’ll all look back. Say remember when they did this too. And forget again.

                Taking away your ability to bring about change isn’t effective protest.

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                  9 months ago

                  I remember pictures and articles of such in textbooks growing up in Florida. That was 1963 in Siagom. 61 years, Half a world away and his sacrifice had an impact to this day. 2 weeks is a bit of an understatement.

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                    9 months ago

                    Yet not only did the Vietnam war escalate, it went on another 10 years after.

            • Malfeasant@lemmy.world
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              You’d have an argument if he had shot himself, or ODed on pills, or slashed his wrists, or any number of other painless, or at least very quick, ways of offing himself.

              He set himself on fucking fire. One of the worst ways imaginable to die that doesn’t require someone else’s active participation, and in fact resists someone else actively trying to stop him. It gets attention.

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            Yes I have. And you’re only thinking about that moment because another occurrence happened recently.

            You’ll even recognize if you’re honest about this that the situation for most people did not change. In Yemen they even got dramatically worse.

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            Not protest. It’s giving up with style.