It’s cute how everyone is pretending there’ll ever be another election if Trump gets back in. He’ll feel spitted, and giving up the presidency a second time will literally feel like an existential issue for him.
For Trump leaving office will be the equivalent of feeling like he’s dying, publically and shamefully.
The military isn’t made of stormtroopers. The oath of both enlistment and commissioned officers is to the Constitution, not the president; specifically to defend it against “all enemies, foreign and domestic”.
He’d get himself assassinated, likely by a military servicemember in accordance with their sworn obligation.
Just because you swear an oath doesn’t mean you will feel like sticking your life on the line to sneak past the secret service and assassinate a domestic enemy president. At best, the military might refuse some unlawful orders.
Christianity emerged out of rumour and legend to grab the minds of fools and it transformed the world in very chaotic and destructive ways. Q Anon is setting up to out do Christianity. The numbers on Q’s growth are terrifying.
this a naive and reductionist view of christianity. it was actually a quite revolutionary and radical movement. god himself became human and lost faith. as zizek puts it, christianity is the most athiestic religion.
jesus was a radical figure trying to kick the romans out of judea - which is why he got executed. he was against the organized religion and the power structures of the time. a few decades after, there was a jewish revolt and the jews controlled jerusalem for a few years. the Romans sent a large army, captured it, and decided to deal with the “jewish question” by making judiasm illegal and scattering the jews
paul, christianity’s don draper, who wrote half the bible and the earliest works of the bible, came up with all sorts of fantastic stories (3 day resurrection, immaculate birth, etc) and modified the story to make it friendlier to roman gentiles (pontius pilate washed his hands in the bible and didn’t want to kill jesus. in reality he killed thousands of jews a year. he wouldn’t have given jesus a second thought)
so christianity went from a jewish cult to a fast-growing religion and that spread across the empire until eventually Constantine himself converted
christianity is the story of the tenacity of the jewish people and the soft power they managed to propagate throughout the empire even after the empire tried to stamp them out. it’s the story of a small desert people conquering the roman empire against all odds
you reduce it so something so simplistic and naive and it’s sad. people should learn the full story.
I really don’t see there’s specific evidence for what motivated Jesus, what his goals were or even anything he actually said. Maybe he was a real specific person, but for sure he would have been much less than how the stories portray him. We can say this for certainty because the gospels contradict each other in the specific events of his life.
You seem to be creating your christian narrative out of wishful thinking just because you want to see it that way. Very normal Christian thinking on your part.
I hate this need to for legend and superstition to justify value systems. It’s so easy to manipulate people with this mentality. Look at Qanon. Just believing anything that affirms their prejudice fears. When the leader comes along who can codify and canonize the belief system it’s going to be a disaster for civilization.
You feel such a strong desire to prove wrong you don’t realize you’re talking to an atheist. I’m talking about historical Jesus.
I think a good book is Zealot by Reza Aslan, if you’re interested in early Christianity. Did you know Jesus had a brother, James? And he was an important leader in early Christianity?
It’s funny how this conversation wasn’t had during the 2020 primaries. Seems like a good time for everyone to sit down and be like “ok who can we all back collectively”. But as usual that’s not how the primaries worked and moderates got their perfect candidate while everybody else got nothing or next to nothing.
It’s cute how everyone is pretending there’ll ever be another election if Trump gets back in
God I am so tired of these hysterical takes. What you should worry about is Trump using the machinery of state to crack down on political enemies, not him becoming dictator for life. People watch way too many movies
The problem isn’t that it’s a hysterical idea, it’s that Trump is dumb, unhinged, and blindly supported enough to try it. We know because he literally tried.
It’s cute how everyone is pretending there’ll ever be another election if Trump gets back in. He’ll feel spitted, and giving up the presidency a second time will literally feel like an existential issue for him.
For Trump leaving office will be the equivalent of feeling like he’s dying, publically and shamefully.
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It’s fine, just make whatever rules you want! I’m sure we’ll still have the power to stop you when we’re tired of your tantrum!
Worse than that, some people think they’ll just start a rebellion.
Like bruh, he’ll have control of the military. 100,000,000 people with semi-auto rifles are no match for tanks, helicopters, and people with training.
The military isn’t made of stormtroopers. The oath of both enlistment and commissioned officers is to the Constitution, not the president; specifically to defend it against “all enemies, foreign and domestic”.
He’d get himself assassinated, likely by a military servicemember in accordance with their sworn obligation.
Just because you swear an oath doesn’t mean you will feel like sticking your life on the line to sneak past the secret service and assassinate a domestic enemy president. At best, the military might refuse some unlawful orders.
That’s true. All it takes is one person who takes their oath seriously, though.
Hopefully we never get to the point where we find out.
Dictator for a day, every day.
Dictator for today
Imagine all the illegal stuff a trump will need in office in order to refill his treasury. How much he would have to sell (secrets). Imagine.
Christianity emerged out of rumour and legend to grab the minds of fools and it transformed the world in very chaotic and destructive ways. Q Anon is setting up to out do Christianity. The numbers on Q’s growth are terrifying.
this a naive and reductionist view of christianity. it was actually a quite revolutionary and radical movement. god himself became human and lost faith. as zizek puts it, christianity is the most athiestic religion.
jesus was a radical figure trying to kick the romans out of judea - which is why he got executed. he was against the organized religion and the power structures of the time. a few decades after, there was a jewish revolt and the jews controlled jerusalem for a few years. the Romans sent a large army, captured it, and decided to deal with the “jewish question” by making judiasm illegal and scattering the jews
paul, christianity’s don draper, who wrote half the bible and the earliest works of the bible, came up with all sorts of fantastic stories (3 day resurrection, immaculate birth, etc) and modified the story to make it friendlier to roman gentiles (pontius pilate washed his hands in the bible and didn’t want to kill jesus. in reality he killed thousands of jews a year. he wouldn’t have given jesus a second thought)
so christianity went from a jewish cult to a fast-growing religion and that spread across the empire until eventually Constantine himself converted
christianity is the story of the tenacity of the jewish people and the soft power they managed to propagate throughout the empire even after the empire tried to stamp them out. it’s the story of a small desert people conquering the roman empire against all odds
you reduce it so something so simplistic and naive and it’s sad. people should learn the full story.
I really don’t see there’s specific evidence for what motivated Jesus, what his goals were or even anything he actually said. Maybe he was a real specific person, but for sure he would have been much less than how the stories portray him. We can say this for certainty because the gospels contradict each other in the specific events of his life.
You seem to be creating your christian narrative out of wishful thinking just because you want to see it that way. Very normal Christian thinking on your part.
I hate this need to for legend and superstition to justify value systems. It’s so easy to manipulate people with this mentality. Look at Qanon. Just believing anything that affirms their prejudice fears. When the leader comes along who can codify and canonize the belief system it’s going to be a disaster for civilization.
You feel such a strong desire to prove wrong you don’t realize you’re talking to an atheist. I’m talking about historical Jesus.
I think a good book is Zealot by Reza Aslan, if you’re interested in early Christianity. Did you know Jesus had a brother, James? And he was an important leader in early Christianity?
It’s funny how this conversation wasn’t had during the 2020 primaries. Seems like a good time for everyone to sit down and be like “ok who can we all back collectively”. But as usual that’s not how the primaries worked and moderates got their perfect candidate while everybody else got nothing or next to nothing.
This line of argument died when the Democrats literally cancelled primary elections in multiple states.
God I am so tired of these hysterical takes. What you should worry about is Trump using the machinery of state to crack down on political enemies, not him becoming dictator for life. People watch way too many movies
The problem isn’t that it’s a hysterical idea, it’s that Trump is dumb, unhinged, and blindly supported enough to try it. We know because he literally tried.