• Optional@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        And dementedly burning down everything one sees and grabbing pussies doesn’t make one “a fighter” - just a narcissistic asshole criminal.

        Hooray what a hero.

        Even if I grant all the arguments are true for the sake of discussion, the fact that they’ve seen how incompetent and ridiculously stupid he is for FOUR YEARS not to mention he tried to destroy their fucking government and they’re all “yay we upset city people” Okay Granpa Jones but that makes you objectively a complete fucking asshole moron and your continued support of this rapist fraud criminal is not helping you in any way at any level. Try again. Got someone smart? Articulate? Anyone? We’re open - any age, any gender, any race - anyone? No? This guy huh. He’s your guy is he. Yeah.

        That’s what we thought.

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          But they didn’t see who he was. Their news media fed them a different story about liberals getting in his way and the immigrants making things worse and the government not letting him fix things. It’s all the “lazy” city people voting for big government handouts that’s making the world worse.

          Anything he’'s accused of is just liberal politics and a hoax.

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          And dementedly burning down everything one sees and grabbing pussies doesn’t make one “a fighter”

          Yeah it does.

          Like, by definition. He fights.

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        It’s not about facts though. They didn’t logically choose to support him based on facts, figures, and results. It’s all feelings.

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      It’s a good explanation. And it confirms the core nihilism motivating these voters. “Burn it all down” is an abdication of responsibility and self-infantilizing by forcing that responsibility on everyone else.

      Their frustration and motivation, while I can understand it, is an insult to those of us continuing to keep it together as they make everything worse.

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        “Burn it all down” is an abdication of responsibility and self-infantilizing by forcing that responsibility on everyone else.

        Left wing doomers and “revolutionaries”: sweats profusely

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      9 months ago

      Wasn’t the first, Ross Perot had a huge following here in rural Utah for that very reason.

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      If only there was a group of people who told us neoliberalism and NAFTA would be disastrous!

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Seattle_WTO_protests

      Since NAFTA, Americans have watched the economy grow, but its stability plummet.

      https://depts.washington.edu/wtohist/testimonies/comesatime.htm

      Interesting reflection in today’s world where we keep getting told that the current administration has done great for the economy, and yet the wealth devide keeps growing, and more and more people are living paycheck to paycheck.

      There’s an also an interesting linguistic difference that is very noticeable between this movement and today’s repercussions of the inaction that followed. While in English we often speak of “anti-globalization” in French they say “alter-mondialisation”. A different globalization instead of against globalization. The French term much better described the left wing movement of the time, while the media only spoke of anti-globalization which now became a calling cry of the right.

      Fun fact, a Twitter was originally conceptualized as a result of the 1999 protests^1 due to the difficulties and successes people on the streets had with coordinating via SMS (which at the time was rather new and novel).


      Anyhow, I guess we should all vote for the neoliberal again, surely that will fix it!

      [1] https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3485447.3512282