Lemmy's Image Problem
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The popular Reddit alternative's user count has grown a lot over the past year. One problem, though: users and admins can't delete images.

Highlighting the recent report of users and admins being unable to delete images, and how Trust & Safety tooling is currently lacking.

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
    41·
    9 months ago

    It is not entitled to expect a published project to comply with basic privacy legislation and not be illegal to use.

    If your bar for this project is that much below basic consumer expectations, then this project was always going to fail.

    • CeeBee@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      9 months ago

      It is not entitled to expect a published project to comply with basic privacy legislation and not be illegal to use.

      No it’s not. But what is entitlement is bombarding voluntary devs with garbage requests. Is this particular issue entitlement? No. But having seen the various requests made over the last year or so there’s a breaking point where a person gets overly sensitive.

      Think of being pestered ALL day at work over garbage and having an all around bad day. Then on the way home you jump into a store to pick something up and someone says something annoying but ultimately innocuous to you. Some people can handle it in stride, some people’s nerves get frayed.

      I’m not excusing the devs here. I don’t actually know what their thoughts are. But from personal experience in the dev world and from what I’ve seen, it looks to me like they’re getting frustrated by users.

      And they might be in a region where the privacy concerns don’t apply to them. And I agree that it’s a problem, but ultimately it’s their right and prerogative to not implement.

      Remember, absolutely no one here has paid a single CENT to the devs for their work (not talking about donations).

      So complaining about the quality of their work while you are benefiting from it for free is literally entitlement.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
        11·
        9 months ago

        I understand having frayed nerves, I even understand snapping at someone because you’re having a bad day, and I do feel sympathy for the devs, and wouldn’t hold this against them (especially since they’re at least providing a nuke everything option that will address it).

        But the line between entitlement and reasonable expectation is not one of monetary compensation.

        Engineering ethics does not let you off the hook just because no one paid you to build what you built. If an engineer goes to the park and unilaterally builds a playground that doesn’t meet basic legislated safety standards and kills a kid, they’re not off the hook. They will be investigated by their professional body and have their license revoked.

        Hell if they just build a playground off in the woods on their own private land but don’t take reasonable steps to prevent kids from accessing or using it then they will have their license revoked.

        • CeeBee@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          9 months ago

          Hell if they just build a playground off in the woods on their own private land but don’t take reasonable steps to prevent kids from accessing or using it then they will have their license revoked.

          Sure, but if you want to extend the analogy that far, then the devs are just posting free plans online on how to build a playground. It’s the instance owners who physically build the “playground” and are liable.

          • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
            2·
            9 months ago

            Again, that does not matter. If an engineer published those plans online and you built it and your kid died they would have their license revoked and face likely criminal liability.

            • CeeBee@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              9 months ago

              There’s no equivalent to a licensed civil engineer in programming.The proper analogy is just anyone putting up those plans.

              Why do you keep adding new parameters to these analogies? It’s such a simple concept but you are determined to prove your opinion, that the devs should acquiesce to your point of view, no matter what.

              • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
                11·
                9 months ago

                There’s no equivalent to a licensed civil engineer in programming.

                It’s literally called a software engineer in most jurisdictions that aren’t America where anyone is allowed to call themselves that. And software engineers also have to take engineering ethics, both courses in university as well as in their final professional exams if they want to call themselves engineers.

                Why do you keep adding new parameters to these analogies? It’s such a simple concept but you are determined to prove your opinion, that the devs should acquiesce to your point of view, no matter what.

                You’re the one who added the “posted online” parameter. I responded and pointed out that it doesn’t matter to the analogy.

                If you put something dangerous into the world, mark it “ready to use”, and encourage people to use it, and that results in them getting hurt or hurting others, then that is a bad thing and you have an obligation to fix it or warn people.

                It’s such a simple concept but you are determined to prove your opinion, that the devs should acquiesce to your point of view, no matter what.

                You’re right about it being a simple concept, I don’ understand where you think I’m demanding anyone do anything. The devs have already acquiesced after the community overwhelmingly dumped on their response. My only point has been that it’s not entitled to expect a developer to put a warning on software once they’ve been alerted that it’s dangerous.