I hear people say that about Nextcloud often, which is part of why I haven’t bothered setting it up yet.

Is there a technical reason why it’s slow and clunky? Any problematic choices with how it was built?

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    9 months ago

    I compare it to a samba or (s)ftp share. I wish it was similar in speed and ease of use.

    It’s become better since I migrated over to PostgreSQL. But it’s still not great.

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        9 months ago

        I’d argue that the primary function of Nextcloud is to serve files. Of course the other services lack other stuff, which is why I’m still using Nextcloud. But I still wish its performance was similar to pure file servers.

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          9 months ago

          I think the file server analogy isn’t really fair. Nextcloud is better compared to Microsoft 365 or Google GSuite.

          All of these offer file storage, but also much more.

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            9 months ago

            Sure. But serving files is the core functionality of Nextcloud. You can remove every other functionality. But the files app cannot be removed.

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              9 months ago

              I disagree. The extras and modularity are the core functionality. If you’re just serving files, there’s SFTP, WebDAV, etc.

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      9 months ago

      PostgreSQL is definitely a boost to performance, especially if you offload the DB to a dedicated server (depending on load, can even be a cluster)

      Nevertheless, it probably has much to do with how it’s deployed and how many proxies are in front of it, and/or VPN. If you have large numbers of containers and small CPU/low memory hardware, and either running everything on one machine or have some other limitations, it’ll be slow.

      Admittedly, I’m not very familiar with the codebase, but I feel Apache isn’t improving the speed either. Not exactly sure how PHP is nowadays with concurrency and async, but generally a microservice type architecture is nice because you can add more workers/instances wherever a bottleneck emerges.

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        9 months ago

        Apache is plenty fast enough for self-hosting scenarios.