Lawmaker: TikTok must “sever relationship with the Chinese Communist Party.”

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    8 months ago

    It’s about power, not about race. International politics is always about power. I don’t get how some people don’t understand that. You’re right that many people are creating a scapegoat out of China, but (the intelligent and influential ones) aren’t doing it out of racism. It might be racist, but they don’t buy it, they’re only selling it. It’s about solidifying power and controlling means and methods. That’s always the case for governments, no matter when or where.

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      non-hexbear/non-lemmygrad user handle
      ridiculous kindergarten-tier reasoning

      like pottery

      “waaahhh they’re only DISPASSIONATELY SELLING the racism, they don’t actually feel it in their hearts!”

      First of all that’s irrelevant
      Second of all your work almost always becomes your personality to some extent so you’re almost certainly wrong

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        And you’re better, right? No. You aren’t. I’m on hexbear fairly frequently. I don’t have any issue with hexbear or lemmygrad. I’m just not ignoring the fact all these nations do this. China has an almost exclusive ecosystem, yet somehow when the US does it it’s racism? No. It isn’t about race. It’s about control. This apiea to China, Russia, and the US, and any other power in the future or past. Anyone who has the capability to gain control also has disposition to exploit their control. You don’t gain control without that.

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          Except it isn’t actually the same. Bytedance can give the US government all the control literally everything they asked for and it hasn’t been enough, because ultimately that is not what it’s about.

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      If TikTok was owned by a German or English corporation, would it be facing this kind of scrutiny? Of fucking course not, don’t be dense.

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        No, because they’d share the information with the US. Just like China doesn’t allow US corporations into China. Don’t be dense.

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          And I suppose the reason all of the euro countries share information with each other and don’t let China into their special club is just a natural phenomenon? Completely arbitrary and random?

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            Not random for sure. They are a seperate power structure. The US does share some data with China, and also western countries don’t share a lot of data with each other as well. All nations are constantly spying on each other. It isn’t infrequent you hear about some NATO country spy being caught spying on some NATO nation. Governments are about control, and they’ll try to increase that control with any method possible.

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            Sure, you have to store data with some locality so round trip times aren’t horrible. It doesn’t mean anyone has access to it or control over it.

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              Oracle is an American company so they can get searched by the government at will. The government has access to TikTok data around as easily as the PRC does, it’s just a matter of corporations being able to grab a profitable asset & create Anti-China sentiment.

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                There’s no way in hell that data isn’t encrypted. That’d be very poor handling of data, and probably illegal in most places, at least the EU. Just because data is on a server doesn’t mean you access it with access to the server. Sure, the videos and stuff are probably raw, but any PII is almost certainly encrypted, or it should be if it isn’t.