Hungarian leader praised Republican front-runner as a “man of peace.”
Donald Trump will totally stop funding Ukraine if he wins the U.S. election in November, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán said following a meeting between the right-wing figureheads.
“He will not give a penny in the Ukraine-Russia war,” Orbán told Hungarian state media Sunday. “Therefore, the war will end, because it is obvious that Ukraine can not stand on its own feet.”
The longtime allies met last Friday at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, a summit which was lambasted by U.S. President Joe Biden.
Ahh yes. The same “peace” that would have fallen upon France and the UK if they just let Hitler take their land.
Worth remembering that a healthy chunk of the American business elite was more than ready to support a United Nazi Europe against the scourge of Stalin’s Soviet Union. Luminaries from Henry Ford to George Prescott Bush were nakedly advocating a US alliance with the Germans in an attempt to reassert western dominion over the globe, as the colonial settlement system was cracking up in the wake of WW1.
Guys like Trump and Orban aren’t anything new. A business-friendly globe-spanning conglomerate has been the end game for the PNAC crowd for a very long time.
Bush exponentially grew the family fortune, making broker fees, by funneling Americans’ investments in these great mining opportunities in Dachau and Auschwitz, where the labor was free!
Don’t forget FDR and Mussolini were mutual fans for a while
Italy was an Allied Power in WW1, and it was assumed (for at least a little while) that they were in the same block.
Allying with Hitler wasn’t the only problem with Mussolini…
I mean, we’re still fucking around in Ethiopia, standing up military juntas and extracting raw materials at sub-market rates.
One of the nicest things you could say about Mussolini was that he absolutely sucked at waging war. Wish more European despots could claim the same.
Rest in peace.
It’s important to remember that Hitler many times in speeches advocated invading Europe, I don’t watch many Putin speeches, but I don’t think he has done that with the US.
What does that even have to do with this thread?
Nothing. It is a strawman to pivot the discussion.
The further that thread goes it derails into the proxy war fallacy.
Edit: Aww look. It did. What a surprise!
Lmao fuckin Nostradamus over here
That it’s not the same situation. Everyone agrees warmongering is bad, but appeasement was mocked not because it led to the annexation of the Czech Republic, but because it didn’t actually keep the UK and France out of a war. Hitler always wanted to invade France. This isn’t the same situation, because Putin isn’t repeatedly saying he wants to invade NATO, which Hitler did do referring to Poland and the USSR. Putin would likely continue to conquest, almost definitely into Georgia if it doesn’t fall in line, but there’s no reason to believe he would attack NATO
What on Earth are you on about? His propaganda stooges in the Russian media which he 100% controls says Russia will either nuke or invade NATO countries on a daily basis.
I already told you where this discussion will go.
Source for them saying they intend to invade NATO after Ukraine? (I don’t mean in retaliation for crossing a “red line”)
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I’m not a leftist
Good, they arent either.
Putins threats have been more direct:
https://www.politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-new-speech-ukraine-war-transnistria-nato
“We too have weapons that can hit targets on their territory. This really threatens a conflict with nuclear weapons, and thus the destruction of civilization,” he added.
That’s messed up, I didn’t know he threatened nuking directly, but I knew state tv had talked about it. But I see that as more a horrific threat than an actual goal- he might be way more crazy than I’m giving him credit for, but I just don’t see how he can actually see a nuclear war with NATO working out for him.