• hakase@lemm.ee
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    The Big Lebowski. It’s got a perfect combination of plodding, boring plot and insufferably obnoxious characters that makes it a physically painful watching experience.

    It genuinely confuses me that people like The Fifth Element. The plot is just batshit insane, and it suffers from obnoxious character syndrome just as much as Lebowski does.

    Thor: Ragnarok is by far the worst Thor movie, and is in the top 3 worst Marvel movies. It’s an absolute travesty of a film that not only ruined the character of the Hulk to the point where he had to be effectively erased as a character going forward, but turned Thor himself into a Gimli-esque laughingstock, and is also just neither funny nor entertaining. But, then again, neither is anything I’ve seen by Taika. Edit: Actually, that’s not quite true. Here’s a really hot take for y’all: Love and Thunder is the good Taika Thor movie. It wasn’t great, but it was miles better than Ragnarok.

    On that note, any movie (or show) where the entire second arc/B-plot is a useless side quest that either fails or does nothing but waste the audience’s time. See, for example: Thor Ragnarok, The Last Jedi, Andor.

    Tarantino movies are really overrated, but I wouldn’t say I dislike them.

    Edit: Ooh, thought of another one. O Brother Where Art Thou would have been an enjoyable movie if it hadn’t tried to act like it’s an adaptation of the Odyssey. As someone who’s pretty familiar with Homer, it just infuriates me every time I try to watch it.

    Edit2: Someone mentioned Skyfall, which has now reminded me that as a huge James Bond fan, I hate all of Craig’s Bond films (except Casino Royale) with a fiery passion, to the extent that I don’t even consider them James Bond movies (they’re “James Bourne” movies at best), and I don’t ever include them in my rankings of the series.

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      Both The Big Lebowski and O Brother Where Art Thou are directed by Joel and Ethan Coen and and it sounds like you might not like their style.

      I’m upvoting you for sharing your opinion even though I disagree 100% as all three movies you mentioned are fantastic at what they set out to do, but not for everyone.

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      That was a hard upvote. Tarantino is my favorite director. I’ve only been lukewarm on one of his movies. And even then, I didn’t dislike it. Respect your opinion though.

      Also, my two favorite movies are Pulp Fiction and The Fifth Element.

      Question: How do you feel about Edgar Wright? Specifically Hot Fuzz and Baby Driver if you’ve seen those.

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        I haven’t seen Baby Driver, but I’ve never seen a Simon Pegg film that I enjoyed (which have been two so far: Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz).

        I swear that there are tons of critically acclaimed movies that I like, including most of the movies people are mentioning in their top-level comments. Also, I actively like Kill Bill, so that’s one Tarantino movie that I do enjoy!

        It seems that we may just have complementary tastes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        Edit: I love Final Fantasy VIII, so we have that in common!

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          Wow, that’s my top 3 that you don’t like. I love that you went and found at least something we both like though.

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              I’ve seen all of those but Citizen Kane and I like them all well enough. I’d put The Truman show well above the others. I could see myself putting that in a top 10 list.

              I don’t think Equilibrium is necessarily a good movie. But I still liked it.

              My top 5 is probably:

              • Pulp Fiction
              • The Fifth Element
              • Hot Fuzz
              • Baby Driver
              • Inside Out

              I’d have to think of a top 10. The Truman Show, Lord of the Rings, The 13th Warrior, The Green Knight, Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse are all movies I can think of off the top of my head.

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      The Big Lebowski may be more fun if you’re already into stoner comedies and classic cinema, because it’s one parodying the other. The cliche in detective novels was a private eye chasing wrong leads but advancing the plot regardless.

      but I’ve never seen a Simon Pegg film that I enjoyed (which have been two so far: Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz).

      … are you maybe just immune to the meta? Like, if you don’t enjoy Airplane!, I am gonna say this is a you problem.

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        I liked Airplane!, so I don’t think it’s that I just dislike meta movies. I really enjoyed Tucker and Dale vs. Evil, for example, but maybe that’s more of a subversion movie than a meta movie? I also enjoy movies like Spaceballs, but maybe that’s more of a spoof? I dunno…

        I think I get the intention of Lebowski, and I’ve often enjoyed the “protag accidentally bumbling his way into success” trope otherwise, so maybe it’s the stoner movie side of things that messes it up for me, since I only rarely enjoy stoner movies.

        I think in both cases, Simon Pegg and Lebowski, it might be the characters that get under my skin most.

        Either way, I appreciate your help in trying to figure this out.

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      I reject most of what you’ve said, but I’m still up voting because I agree entirely about the big lebowski.

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      I’m sorry, you’re trolling MCU/super hero movie fans if you think Thor Ragnarok is worse than Thor 2. Your opinion is opinion, but it’s factually incorrect and I think You’re here to troll/hate on the director who you call out by name.

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        Funnily enough, I watched Thor 2 two weeks ago during my most recent Marvel watch-through, and other than a slightly lackluster final battle, I literally can’t understand what people have against it. Great characterization and development for Loki, Thor, Odin, and Jane, a truly crushing moment with the death of Thor’s mom, Christopher Eccleston’s excellent villain, and a great cliff-hanger ending with Loki replacing Odin - I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here. It’s not amazing, but it’s definitely in the top half of Marvel movies. Much better than crap like Iron Man 3 and Captain Marvel.

        If you’re this bothered by someone having a different opinion than yours, maybe a thread about people disliking popular movies isn’t for you.

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          Downvote away fella, funny you bring up my being “bothered by someone having a different opinion” when I didn’t bother down voting you.

          Also you’re casting shade on an accomplished directors entire body of work pretty freely there, might it be that you have some bias against a certain jene c’est quoi that you’d rather not have “shoved down your throat”?

          You might be taking crazy pills, or you’re just unhappy with progression of society and digging into the trenches defending more traditionally themed movies, despite their not even close to mediocrity.

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            Downvote away fella, funny you bring up my being “bothered by someone having a different opinion” when I didn’t bother down voting you.

            I downvoted you because your comment didn’t contribute productively to the thread, which, I remind you, is about unpopular opinions about movies.

            You downvoted me because you’re mad about my opinion and offended that I downvoted you. I’m sure you can figure out the difference.

            might it be that you have some bias against a certain jene c’est quoi that you’d rather not have “shoved down your throat”?

            I have no idea what this is supposed to mean, unless you’re implying that I’m somehow bigoted for not liking Taika’s work, which I wasn’t aware was considered especially progressive. Also, it’s je ne sais quoi.

            You might be taking crazy pills, or you’re just unhappy with progression of society and digging into the trenches defending more traditionally themed movies, despite their not even close to mediocrity.

            Doing a whole lotta unfounded theorycrafting there bucko. Maybe I just don’t like the director that you seem strangely attached to, and maybe you should go touch some grass instead of getting oddly worked up at a stranger on the internet over literally nothing.

            Also, I don’t see this conversation becoming productive from here, so I likely won’t respond any further.